582 Vanguard repower - Page 3

darkminion_17 · #21 05-03-2015, 06:12 PM

So the motor cannot be moved closer?

Sam Mac · #22 05-03-2015, 06:16 PM

Probably not if you want the PTO to line up. Just my 2 cents but I'd rather move the clutch to the engine than have all that stuff overhanging with a long spacer.

Hack.45 · #23 05-03-2015, 06:16 PM

I want to keep the functionality of the PTO, which is why I'm trying to find a way of lengthening the driveline. I didn't realize the Vanguard engine was significantly shorter than the opposed twin that originally came in the tractor.

Shrewcub · #24 05-03-2015, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17

So the motor cannot be moved closer?

Lew as Sam said in post #2 the Pto should be the starting point. So not really, if he wants to use it.

Edit :I got beat twice! I'm brainstorming too just haven't figured it out yet.

darkminion_17 · #25 05-03-2015, 06:21 PM

Ohhhhh,maybe make the pto shaft longer...

Sam Mac · #26 05-03-2015, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hack.45

Yup. From the front pressure plate to the original adapter, less the 2000 series coupler, it's 3.5". I attached a picture as it sits right now. Since Sam is out of stock on drive adapters, I've been watching a few on eBay. All have the pilot bushing and I'm currently watching one that ends tonight.

I too thought about moving the hanger bracket and throw-out bearing assembly forward, and buying a longer drive shaft. I also found this video that shows a longer gap between the throw-out bearing and pressure plate:

http://youtu.be/bVO2lfjSNPU

I know this a modified 6 pin pulling clutch assembly with heavier springs and such, but I'm wondering if this could be accomplished without the pulling upgrades using a longer spacer behind the rear pressure plate and possibly a heavier spring. Just brain storming... What do you think?

Just looked at that video and I think your on to something. I see no reason that it wouldn't work. I'd use that adapter that you found on Flea Bay and a 3 pin driver with the bushing in it like a NF driver.

Shrewcub · #27 05-03-2015, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Mac

Just looked at that video and I think your on to something. I see no reason that it wouldn't work. I'd use that adapter that you found on Flea Bay and a 3 pin driver with the bushing in it like a NF driver.

I'm with Sam. I missed the video the first go'round too.

Sam Mac · #28 05-03-2015, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17

Ohhhhh,maybe make the pto shaft longer...

I don't think the crank shaft would like that. It's only a 1" shaft on the front of a Vanguard and he'd need to extend it about 4"s.

darkminion_17 · #29 05-03-2015, 06:52 PM

I saw it move,a 1535 bracket is angled more forward that an 82 series. Just to let you know.
Now if the guy can make those adapters thicker it may help.

Hack.45 · #30 05-03-2015, 07:02 PM

Awesome! Thanks guys for your input! I think my plan will be to get the 3 pin driver and flea bay adapter

and then mock up the engine for an exact measurement on the drive shaft extension. Then, I'll get the drive shaft, shaft spacer, and engine spacers and figure out the mounting holes, after the drive clutch and PTO are lined up.

Any advice on mounting the flea bay adapter with the plastic fan designed to mount between it and the flywheel?

Also, will I be able to use my original wiring harness and ignition switch? Or will it need to be swapped out?

Thanks again for all of your help!