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Old 01-06-2020, 08:58 PM
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Figured I would just start my own thread since I had a few questions as well. Just picked up a 149 and based on the serial number looks like April 1972. I have a few things to fix such as lights blew a fuse. I want to rewire the whole thing actually to freshen it up. It came with a 44'' deck which I will use come spring time to cut grass. I'm going to change oil and rebuild the carburetor and put a new air filter on.

Now my question. I was reading up on doing a static timing but can't seem to find a sight hole. Engine is a K321A, Spec. No. 60166c. There is no sight hole on either side of engine on the flywheel shroud. I was reading on another forum that most are below the S/G and sometimes they are on the carb side but I can't find one. Also read another guy has a sight hole on the front. Below the S/G on bearing plate is Serial No. 14078150 and it appears to be a raised nib like a timing reference marker but no hole to see the flywheel.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 01-06-2020, 09:14 PM
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Welcome and congrats on your 149

As far as the wiring, I highly suggest purchasing from Mlamar
https://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/...ad.php?t=34457

Very affordable and every single connection is labeled.

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Old 01-06-2020, 09:29 PM
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I’ve contacted mlamar via email already. Waiting a response.

As far as the timing goes. In this link my plate looks exactly like this below the S/G with the timing mark just no hole as in post #7. The following reply in post #8 said he drilled a hole.

https://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/...ead.php?t=7750
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Old 01-06-2020, 11:56 PM
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Welcome to OCC,, NICE 149!!

The BEST way to time the K321 is with a feeler gauge,, simply adjust the points,,

Messing with trying to "time" the ignition is something you delve into if the feeler gauge does not give you perfection.

I have always had 100% success with simply setting the gap of the points,,

The timing has a large tolerance,, so the gap setting is hard to beat,

KISS,, as they say about keeping it simple,,,



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Old 01-07-2020, 05:33 AM
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The hole is in the rear bearing plate and may or may not have a snap in plug installed.
If not, I would install one as mice like to move into that area.

By all means static time the engine if it is on the bench. Piece of cake at that stage and you will not be disappointed.

You will have to remove the S/G to access the hole in the bearing plate.
This is the plate from my 149 w/original engine and I am cleaning the flywheel where the marks are.
There will be an "SP" or an "S" and that is what you are looking for.
Mine had only a "T" and an "S", no "OC"
From the black paint, it looks like your engine is a replacement so all bets are off in that case.
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Old 01-07-2020, 06:10 AM
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The hole is in the rear bearing plate and may or may not have a snap in plug installed.
If not, I would install one as mice like to move into that area.

By all means static time the engine if it is on the bench. Piece of cake at that stage and you will not be disappointed.

You will have to remove the S/G to access the hole in the bearing plate.
This is the plate from my 149 w/original engine and I am cleaning the flywheel where the marks are.
There will be an "SP" or an "S" and that is what you are looking for.
Mine had only a "T" and an "S", no "OC"
From the black paint, it looks like your engine is a replacement so all bets are off in that case.
My engine has the same exact timing mark in the same spot below the S/G as your picture you posted, but there is no hole. The link I posted before had another member with the same issue of a timing mark on the bearing plate but no hole. I'll keep digging around but almost 99% sure mine also does not have a hole.

As far as the paint I'm unsure. The previous owner did not do anything to it because he only had it for a year and it sat. It looks like someone repainted a bunch of stuff and the engine they just spray painted black so it could be original or could be a replacement. First thing I noticed was the air cleaner cover still had painters tape covering the service sticker from when they painted it. The engine and air cleaner cover are yellow underneath so maybe the original?
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One good treason to pull the engine is to do general inspection and house cleaning.
You may just find a surprise pkg. like this under the housing & tins.
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Welcome to OCC,, NICE 149!!

The BEST way to time the K321 is with a feeler gauge,, simply adjust the points,,

Messing with trying to "time" the ignition is something you delve into if the feeler gauge does not give you perfection.

I have always had 100% success with simply setting the gap of the points,,

The timing has a large tolerance,, so the gap setting is hard to beat,

KISS,, as they say about keeping it simple,,,





Same here on setting the points
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Old 01-07-2020, 10:04 AM
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I might end up just pulling the motor to go over things a little better. I need to build myself a small work bench first in the garage.
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Old 01-07-2020, 11:50 AM
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If it’s a newer engine maybe the timing hole is on the left side of the blower housing like on an AQS engine.
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