Cub Cadet 1000 Model 444 rotary mower

KF5PV · #1 09-02-2016, 04:58 PM

Update: I am starting to find some info.

Sorry But I am gnawing at the bit on this.

I am looking for a little info on an old IH cub cadet 1000. model 444 rotary mower.

I am a newb and hate to make a new post asking ignorant questions. I have googled some stuff and can't find the answers I want.

I have paid for it but am not picking it up until Sunday. got this one for $150.00 and it actually fired up and the tires had air.

What engine does this have? Does it have a rear PTO? it looks like it has a lift on the back and there were attachments in the garage sold separate.
I am hoping they are still there Sunday. (on second thought should I just go back and buy them now for 100 dollars?
It looked like 2-3 different attachments. i will have to go see tomorrow.)

I did not see a PTO on the back but having a lift and seeing attachments in the garage I assume It would have one but again I do not know.

The deck is belt driven and it looked like it may have had some type of PTO on the front.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Paul

R Bedell · #2 09-02-2016, 05:12 PM

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What engine does this have?

It rolled out of the Factory with a Kohler K-241 Engine.

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Does it have a rear PTO?

It was a rare option.

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The deck is belt driven and it looked like it may have had some type of PTO on the front.

It rolled out of the Factory with an Electric Front PTO as standard equipment.

vr4Legacy · #3 09-02-2016, 05:23 PM

It had a 10hp hence the "10"00 from the factory.

The 00 denotes it gear driven.

It's from the "Quietline" series.

Here is a link to the manual, should answer most of your basic questions.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=4670

And service manual

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=4644

Most (maybe all?) attachments from Wide Frame Cubs will fit.

I'm guessing it's a 44 or 44A mower. 44" cutting width.

Show us some more pics when you get it and we might answer more

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I'd try to get the attachments too if they are of any interest to you. He's likely to sell them at a good price, since the tractor is sold.

KF5PV · #4 09-02-2016, 05:40 PM

Thank you both. I assume if it had a rear PTO it would have been coming out of the rear end gear box or something?

I really wish now I would have spent a little more time looking at it and the attachments. Just had to got to work where I am now.

I don't think I can wait until Sunday. I will go pick it up tomorrow and see what the attachments are if they are still there.

I was really hoping one of them was a tiller attachment. like I said it looked like there were three of them. not sure what other front driven attachments there are besides a snow blower. That is why I am holding out hope for a rear PTO.

Was it common to have a rear lift and no rear PTO?

It did look like that creeper shifting lever was not there which I assume it is an option so that is why it is an empty slot.

Thanks again

Paul

KF5PV · #5 09-02-2016, 05:45 PM

Maybe I am wrong about the rear lift as I do not see anything in my picture to operate it with Like I see in the manual.

Paul

R Bedell · #6 09-02-2016, 05:49 PM

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That is why I am holding out hope for a rear PTO

IH had an optional Rear PTO for their tractors. Other than it had the "cool factor" it was worthless. They made no implements or attachments for it. Further, it rotated in the wrong direction and to use it on "other" farm implements, one would have to acquire and install a "reverser".

IMHO, that rear PTO was worthless as T*** on a boar hog.

KF5PV · #7 09-02-2016, 05:55 PM

I think I am ignorant here!!!

can I assume that the front PTO drives attachments on the back via a belt?

I am laughing at myself assuming front PTO means attachments on the front only?

Tell me I am wrong please so I can buy those attachments in the morning.

Thanks again

Paul

vr4Legacy · #8 09-02-2016, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KF5PV

Thank you both. I assume if it had a rear PTO it would have been coming out of the rear end gear box or something?

As noted, the actual rear PTO didn't offer much utility.

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Was it common to have a rear lift and no rear PTO?

I've seen LOTS of pictures of lifts and their use, very few of actual PTOs

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It did look like that creeper shifting lever was not there which I assume it is an option so that is why it is an empty slot.

Correct

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Originally Posted by KF5PV

I think I am ignorant here!!!

can I assume that the front PTO drives attachments on the back via a belt?

I am laughing at myself assuming front PTO means attachments on the front only?

Tell me I am wrong please so I can buy those attachments in the morning.

Most rear powered attachments operate through a belt form the front PTO and a 90 degree gear box on the back. As mentioned they didn't make many (or any) attachments for the actual rear PTO. So if you get a powered attachment for the rear, it's gonna run off the front PTO with a belt.

vr4Legacy · #9 09-02-2016, 06:08 PM

Here is a forum with implement manuals. Should help answer some specific questions.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/f...splay.php?f=39

J-Mech · #10 09-02-2016, 10:19 PM

PTO stands for Power Take Off. They can be located in more than one spot. All Cub Cadets have a front PTO. Only a few have rear PTO's. Somewhat rare option. Like Roland said, unless your handy and can make your own attachments to run off it, they didn't make any for them. They could be used in some farm applications, but I'm assuming from your questions that farming isn't something you know a lot about.

The rear lift if it has one, will operate with the same handle that raises the mowing deck up and down.

As suggested, look over the manuals. Lots of info in them.