Picked up an 1811/Problems/Introduction thread

Jwrandolph · #1 08-09-2016, 07:02 PM

Hello all,

I recently picked up an 1811 Hydro to mow my yard with. It has higher hours on it, but I will not be beating it or putting a ton of hours on it as it will only be ran for roughly an hour at a time as my yard is not that big. My hopes are to get a couple years out of it and when it comes time to be able to sell it for whatever I can and put that towards something better, and hopefully bigger if I can get another house with more land like I plan.

I do know that it needs a few things, some sooner than later. First, I need to address the broken PTO belt. I think there may be more to the broken belt than just blaming it on age. I was mowing, and every now and again, I smelled a hint of burning rubber. Also at one point in the yard where I crested over a small hill and the deck pushed up due to the crest of the hill, the PTO disengaged. I pulled forward a foot or so, and re-engaged and it worked just fine. Another couple minutes into the mow, it threw the belt and chewed it up. I plan on ordering another and replacing, but if you have any insight on other things to look for to make sure it does not happen again, it would be appreciated.

Second I need to look into the brakes. My yard is a big hill, so even though I may not need the brakes at all time, I certainly would have more peace of mind knowing I have a way to at least lock the wheels up or safely park on a hill. As it sits right now, I push the pedal down and it just stays there, and will not spring back up. When it is pushed down, the tractor will not stay put if parked on a hill so I am having to chock the wheels for now. I have not even pulled the wheels off to take a look at the pads or linkage yet.

Everything else will be done once fall has come and the tractor can sit for a few weeks while I take my time going through it. Some things I plan on doing are probably re-paint the deck, maybe the whole tractor, change all fluids, mainly focusing on cleaning out the hytran fluid as it is old, and whining pretty loud. I know it will always probably have a whine of some sort but I am hoping to reduce the whining and ensure it has the proper amount of fluid.

Beyond any input for my two immediate issues above, I am trying to find a repair manual (not the owners manual) for my model so I can read over it before working to potentially save a little time and frustration. Also, what are the best places to get parts from? For my four wheeler, I have a cross reference guide for a lot of parts including brake pads, half shafts, lights, filters and fluids from a local place like napa, is there anything like that for these tractors? My main parts needed immediately are the pto belt and brake components.

This will also serve as my welcome post to the forum. I grew up learning on my dad's cub cadet super, where I was mowing a few acres at roughly 8 or 9 years old. Ever since then, I have always had a soft spot for cubs over the others (not that they are bad). I may end up making the one I just bought look nice and do a mild restoration on it just for fun, but hope to get bigger and better down the road. I hope to lurk and learn a little and if applicable be able to contribute and help other.

Mike McKown · #2 08-09-2016, 07:15 PM

If you have a 46" mowing deck on that tractor, make sure the PTO belt is routed right. One goes to the center of the front hangers and one goes to the outside of the left hanger. The deck will run with both runs of the belt between the front hangers but it will burn the belt up and do what you describe.

Also, use either a Cub belt or a belt made to run in differnt directions. Forget what you call them but they cost more than the run of the mill belts. The run of the mill will not hold up long.

Jwrandolph · #3 08-09-2016, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike McKown

If you have a 46" mowing deck on that tractor, make sure the PTO belt is routed right. One goes to the center of the front hangers and one goes to the outside of the left hanger. The deck will run with both runs of the belt between the front hangers but it will burn the belt up and do what you describe.

Also, use either a Cub belt or a belt made to run in differnt directions. Forget what you call them but they cost more than the run of the mill belts. The run of the mill will not hold up long.

Mike, It is a 50" deck. I will probably pull the deck off tomorrow and I can take photos if necessary. The routing for the belts on the deck all look in okay condition, it was the actual belt that drives the main pulley from the PTO to the deck that jumped and shredded.

Thanks for your response.

zippy1 · #4 08-09-2016, 11:50 PM

Welcome to the forum.

You wrote; " change all fluids, mainly focusing on cleaning out the hytran fluid as it is old, and whining pretty loud. I know it will always probably have a whine of some sort but I am hoping to reduce the whining and ensure it has the proper amount of fluid."

This would be something to take care of now, rather than later...

BIGMOZEKE · #5 08-10-2016, 04:52 AM

PM me your email address and I will send you all of the manuals that I have for an 1811

Jwrandolph · #6 08-10-2016, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by zippy1

Welcome to the forum.

You wrote; " change all fluids, mainly focusing on cleaning out the hytran fluid as it is old, and whining pretty loud. I know it will always probably have a whine of some sort but I am hoping to reduce the whining and ensure it has the proper amount of fluid."

This would be something to take care of now, rather than later...

Noted. I will check the fluid level when I pull the deck off. I will look into ordering the gasket and get the fluid drained and replaced asap.

BIGMOZEKE · #7 08-11-2016, 08:39 PM

Manuals were sent to the email provided. Let me know if you need anything else.

Jwrandolph · #8 08-31-2016, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGMOZEKE

Manuals were sent to the email provided. Let me know if you need anything else.

Sorry, it has been a very busy couple of weeks but I did receive them, and I really appreciate it. I am hoping things will calm down in the next few weeks and I can get time to read through them, and tinker on my mower a little bit.

I have been mowing with it a little bit, and I am still having problems with the PTO disengaging. The new belt I put on is running fine, so I do not know if its a wire shorting out temporarily disengaging it or if it is a bad switch, or potentially a bad PTO unit. It runs great when it is running. I have noticed that it usually disengages when I am going downhill (very weird, I know). The previous owner has taken out all over-ride switches etc such as the seat safety switch so lord knows what kind of hacked up wiring is on the mower. The other weird thing is when the PTO disengages, I do not have to turn the switch all the way off, then re-engage the switch to activate the PTO, I just push it back up and it kicks on. I was trying holding the PTO switch all the way up when going down hill to see if I could narrow the problem down while cutting, but unfortunately it started to rain so I put the mower away.

Any thoughts as to what the heck is going on, or a simple fix? I was thinking maybe just get a toggle switch, and re-wire everything with new wiring. Thanks again for the manual and the help you guys have provided so far.

J-Mech · #9 08-31-2016, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jwrandolph

Any thoughts as to what the heck is going on, or a simple fix? I was thinking maybe just get a toggle switch, and re-wire everything with new wiring. Thanks again for the manual and the help you guys have provided so far.

You don't have to shut the switch off to re-engage the PTO. That part is fine.

The hold in relay is not holding. Could be (but not limited to):
Wiring
Bad switch
Bad connection
Too wide air gap on the PTO (this one is a stretch)
Poor connection at the ignition switch

You are just going to have to check all the electrical connections and find the issue. Best time to do it is when it acts up. Just one of those PITA electrical gremlin's that may not be easy to find.

Texas Blues · #10 08-31-2016, 09:37 PM

Congrats on the 1811! I own one and it is my favorite machine to mow with. Look for a corroded, or melted harness connector on the back of your pto switch. Going downhill or uphill should not have any effect of the pto disengaging, unless like you say, there might be a wire shorting. On the pto belts, make sure none of your idlers are seized or tight, and that both mule drive pulleys swing free on the pivot shaft (specially the left side spring loaded one).
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