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Old 03-16-2016, 08:32 PM
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Hi,

I am looking for some advice about a IH CC 1000 that is for sale near me. This one has sat in the same spot for the last couple of years at a small engine repair shop. I've driven past it almost daily and it looks quite forlorn. I always have been interested in IHCs, so I've wondered if it ever would be sold.

I am moving in with my fiancee soon, and her yard takes almost two hours to mow using the push mower (probably about an acre or so in size). So, I thought the time is right to look at a riding mower and I thought about this one. Stopped by to look at it today. The guy said he bought it for $300 "but would sell it for $350." It honestly has not moved in quite a while. A friend who works at the nearby tractor store will be coming by to check it out as well, so that will help. But I still have some questions:

a) I would like to restore it over time. How difficult is it to find replacement parts for the 1000? Where can I find correct paint? Decals?

b) What are some key things to look at while I consider it? What are the rust areas? It seems to have just surface rust right now.

c) Is it unrealistic to think that this could be pressed into service so quickly after it has sat for so long?

d) Is the rear bagger and engine an IH implement? Or is that aftermarket? It is a Briggs and Stratton engine. That system is kind of what got me interested in this one in the first place.

e) What about the lights? I haven't seen a model 1000 with lights like that. The orange ones by the seat would be coming off; I don't think those are original, either.

f) Is there a site that lists the implements available for this model?

I have done some cursory research on this site (very comprehensive, by the way). It has a slot for the creeper but it is not there (which I hear they all had). Is the creeper worth it? It also has a front PTO.

I think that is it for now. Please share with me your experiences with this model, and if it is worth it. I'm kind of new at this, so I'm not really sure if it is something worthwhile. I do love International Harvesters, so if I can rescue this one, I would. Just want to make sure it's fiscally responsible!

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Old 03-16-2016, 08:49 PM
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You asked a mouth-full of questions..... but I'll only ask two.

1.) What kind of budget are you willing to work within? Be honest.
2.) What is your ability level? Shoot straight, no BS.


Not all had creepers. They all had a front PTO.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:56 PM
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1) Probably $750 to $1K at the start. As time goes on, that number would go up.

2) This would be my first mower to work on. I restored a 1967 Land Rover, so there is that. I feel I can attempt the majority of things myself (though I have never really worked on engines) and feel comfortable doing most of the work myself.
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Old 03-16-2016, 09:06 PM
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There are tons of parts available for the IH built Cub Cadets although some parts can get expensive (The 1000 is an IH built Cub Cadet).

Cub Cadet 1000's came with a 10 hp Kohler engine, if this one in fact has a B & S engine, I would shy away from it because it is most likely a conglomeration of unknown parts, not to mention that the B & S engines weren't nearly as well built as the Kohler engines.

It is however possible that this is actually a Cub Cadet 1100, they were originally outfitted with a B & S engine. On the down-side, most Cub Cadet enthusiasts don't consider an 1100 to be a real Cub Cadet.

In any event, I wouldn't pay that much for a non running 1000 with a B & S engine or an 1100 (but I'm kind of a cheap-skate).

The bagger attachment is kind of a cool thing though, depending on its condition, it could be worth a couple hundred bucks to the right person.

Stop by and tell the guy, "I'm on my way to the ATM to get some money, you get that thing running and I'll take it when I get back". Then see how much the price drops.


Edit, I misread the original post, I thought you said that the tractor had a B & S engine, My mistake...
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Old 03-16-2016, 09:08 PM
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There are tons of parts available for the IH built Cub Cadets although some parts can get expensive (The 1000 is an IH built Cub Cadet).

Cub Cadet 1000's came with a 10 hp Kohler engine, if this one in fact has a B & S engine, I would shy away from it because it is most likely a conglomeration of unknown parts, not to mention that the B & S engines weren't nearly as well built as the Kohler engines.

It is however possible that this is actually a Cub Cadet 1100, they were originally outfitted with a B & S engine. On the down-side, most Cub Cadet enthusiasts don't consider an 1100 to be a real Cub Cadet.

In any event, I wouldn't pay that much for a non running 1000 with a B & S engine or an 1100 (but I'm kind of a cheap-skate).

The bagger attachment is kind of a cool thing though, depending on its condition, it could be worth a couple hundred bucks to the right person.

Stop by and tell the guy, "I'm on my way to the ATM to get some money, you get that thing running and I'll take it when I get back". Then see how much the price drops.
The way I read his post, the bagger is powered by a B&S . That's how my Trac vac system is.
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Correct, the bagger motor is a B+S. The engine under the hood is a Kohler 10HP.
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Correct, the bagger motor is a B+S. The engine under the hood is a Kohler 10HP.
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Old 03-16-2016, 09:19 PM
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Thanks, Jeff!
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1) Probably $750 to $1K at the start. As time goes on, that number would go up.

2) This would be my first mower to work on. I restored a 1967 Land Rover, so there is that. I feel I can attempt the majority of things myself (though I have never really worked on engines) and feel comfortable doing most of the work myself.

If it's sat outside that long, you may spend all that money and it still not be usable. That's assuming that you pay the $350 asking price. That leaves $400-$650 to get it running. Mainly because of it's age and the fact it sat so long, I wouldn't assume that the engine is good. You can wrap up $350 in an overhaul depending on machine shop prices. Then there's the clutch and rear end, deck..... on and on. Depending on what's wrong, it's possible to make a usable machine for that price. It's also possible to spend much more before it's good. I'm not trying to talk you out of it, just shooting straight.

Like others said, basically all parts are available, even if it's used. All the main components are rebuildable and parts are readily available.

With the Peco vac on it, it may be worth $350, but that's pushing it pretty hard IMHO.
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