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06-25-2015, 07:03 AM
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Non-Ethanol
Summer vacation for the kids, the grandsons and I are going on a new weekly mission.
'Bout two miles away, local airport, we're going to pickup five gallons of non-ethanol gas. I'm thinking, something for the boys to do and from what I read, non-ethanol gas is best for our machinery. Thoughts? 
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06-25-2015, 07:12 AM
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It sure can't hurt, that ethanol is nasty stuff. We don't have anywhere locally with a non-ethanol pump, so I just make sure to add some stabilizer each time I fill up my gas jugs. We buy 5 gallon cans of 94 octane No Ethanol Added racing fuel for all our small engines in the fire company and haven't had a problem yet.
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06-25-2015, 07:31 AM
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There are several gas stations in my area that sell Non-ethanol fuel. I buy what they call "Rec-90". It is short Recreational 90. It is 90 octane intended for Recreational Vehicles. Tractors seem to really like it.
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06-25-2015, 07:38 AM
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This site lists the ethanol free gas stations nation wide.
http://pure-gas.org/
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06-25-2015, 07:54 AM
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I did check the pure-gas website but, looks like a day trip for non-ethanol gas for me. None close by.
I'm only a few miles from the airport where I can pick up non-ethanol gas. From all I've heard and experienced, going non-ethanol in this barn. Two close airports, one cannot supply fuel. No permit. The other airport states. "You have to park in the lot, carry a can(s) to the pump and fill it (them). If someone is present you can pay, if not, use a credit card on the pump." Fuel is available 24/7. I have been using stabilizer which won't be needed, I guess. Are most tractor nuts in agreement regarding ethanol fuel? Some of our gas engines sit for weeks, if not longer, with ethanol gas in their tanks. Not a good situation from what I read.
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06-25-2015, 08:24 AM
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Ethanol gas is great product if you have good fuel storage habits. I've been using only E10 fuel for 10 plus years with no fuel related issues. Buying fuel that sits around more than 30 days is major no-no. That is the number one problem I see. I do not leave my fuel containers sit on the floor of my shop or storage building. The fuel container will attract moisture from the cold damp floor. I will shake the container before adding fuel to your small engine. All the additives will separate with the heaviest going to the bottom of the fuel container. Ethanol is the heaviest additive in the fuel. That is why carbs look bad inside because the owner doesn't turn off the fuel at the tank and leave the carb run dry.
I replace all my small engine fuel every 30 days with fresh fuel.
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06-25-2015, 09:08 AM
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All advice well taken and, thanks for the link to Project Uncle Dick.
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ght=Uncle+Dick Great photos, nice fleet you have there! Workers fo' sure!
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06-25-2015, 11:27 AM
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I too have been using ethanoled gas since when ever it was mandated.
I also store spare fuel in containers on the hard cold ground all the time. In plastic jugs, not steel only because the ethanol binds with the water in the fuel and over time settles to the bottom. Then the water causes rust to form. And they are not vented until I start pouring. If they are air tight, the ethanol can not pull moisture from the surrounding air. Read the MSDS for what ever fuel stabilizer you might use. Many are merely adding more ethanol/methanol. Or just kerosene. i.e. Star-Tron Enzyme Fuel Treatment for small engines is 95% clear kerosene and 5% regular kerosene nothing else.
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06-25-2015, 12:28 PM
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Been storing my fuel in the plastic jugs for as long as I can remember with no issues. I use 87/89 octane from the pump which, of course, contains ethanol (no more than 10%). I store the non-vented containers on a piece of wood on the floor to keep it off the cement. Never have an issue. Also, the fuel in my machines rarely lasts a week or two, nonetheless 30+ days
 I also (and y'all are gonna hate me) use 91 octane with the same 10% ethanol in it in my Stihl chainsaw. Stihl site says that's ok, I still use the Stihl fuel mix additive, whatever it is, and have not had any problems. Being careful is one thing but going out your way to get special fuel for our stock machines doesn't make sense to me. I could see it if you have a modified engine requiring it but our engines will run there whole life on 10% ethanol fuel and (if handled right) not miss a beat. I could see this turning into another oil debate
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06-25-2015, 02:26 PM
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I have a local station that sells real gas, I buy all mine there. Ethanol does not get you as far.
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