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Old 12-18-2014, 12:48 AM
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Default KT17 add oil filter.
My 682 is missing the starter side engine shroud and from what I am reading it had the serial number on it.

The air cleaner says Series II. The service manual shows a serial number break between low and high pressure engines. If this is the break between Series I and II then I have a high pressure oil system. If not how can I tell ?

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Old 12-18-2014, 05:53 AM
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No, you need the remote filter package. Make sure your engine has the block off plate for the adapter.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231424315522...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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There is NO difference in Oil Pressure between the Series I and Series II engines. The difference is in how the "rod journals" got lubricated. The Series I used the "oil splash" method, while the Series II had pressurized channels. See attached image...



"Some" of the Series II had an oil filter provision and some did not.
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There is NO difference in Oil Pressure between the Series I and Series II engines. The difference is in how the "rod journals" got lubricated. The Series I used the "oil splash" method, while the Series II had pressurized channels. See attached image...



"Some" of the Series II had an oil filter provision and some did not.
This is confusing, on the same page as the diagrams it talks about 5 PSI and 20-50 PSI systems.

Found a link on another forum showing the on tractor adapter on a JD 317. The cylinder tin and frame had to be modified so maybe that is why the remote filter setup is used on the cub.

Thanks for the link Bill

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Let me say this, it has been my finding that series 1 had maybe #10 of pressure on a good day as provided by the pressure relief spring.
The series 2 and magnums had over #35-45+.
You can use a filter on the side of the block location without going the remote route, but it is not as convient to change the filter, and you have to snip the tin away from the filter area slightly.
I can post a pix of a magnum engine in my 782 with the block filter mount location if someone wants it
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If you have a series 1 you have no provision on the block for a filter or a place to put the adaptor for a remote filter.
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Per the Kohler Parts Manuals, the Oil Pump on the Series I and Series II are the SAME.
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And right you are sir,
the pressure relief spring is the difference.
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My 682 is missing the starter side engine shroud and from what I am reading it had the serial number on it.
The Model/Serial tag is located on the Top of the engine, not the side ducts.

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Does the Kohler-85-755-23-s-Oil-Filter-Adapter-Kohler-Magnum-M-18-M-20-Engines Work on the KT17 Series II?
Again, NOT all KT-17 Series II had Oil Filter provisions.
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Per the Kohler Parts Manuals, the Oil Pump on the Series I and Series II are the SAME.
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And right you are sir,
the pressure relief spring is the difference.
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The Model/Serial tag is located on the Top of the engine, not the side ducts.



Again, NOT all KT-17 Series II had Oil Filter provisions.

All this information is correct. Just thought I'd jump in so that there are 3 that agree.
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Per the Kohler Parts Manuals, the Oil Pump on the Series I and Series II are the SAME.

This is the root of my confusion. It is from the Twin Cylinder Engine Service Manual. Please forgive me as I know you have been posting about this subject for quite a while.



If the universe makes sense. and often it don't, they started putting the blockoff plates on engines starting with 24300.

This looks like it may be the tag with the serial number, if it was the rubber fuel line erased the actual numbers.

Unless I am still confused the engine does have the blockoff plate. So I would guess I am good to go for the filter.

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