Creeper Leaking

garnold · #1 09-03-2014, 05:05 PM

So my never EVER ending battle with this 108 continues. Just saw a small drip on the ground under the tractor and found the the creeper is leaking out of the drive shaft area. What parts are normally parts that wear and should be replaced so I can place an order. Thanks you

J-Mech · #2 09-03-2014, 05:07 PM

Seals and gaskets.

garnold · #3 09-03-2014, 05:14 PM

From what I can tell there are only two that I can see. I'll order these, but did I miss anything? I'm going off partstree guide....

http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=c...&dn=0012400016

Cub Cadet 721-3011
Seal, Input Shaft Brg Cage Oil

Cub Cadet 721-3010
O-Ring, 2-7/16 X 2-5/8 X 3/32

J-Mech · #4 09-03-2014, 05:19 PM

I only see one seal, and one gasket.

Talk to Lew, he knows the part number for the "cheap seal".

You can make a gasket.

garnold · #5 09-03-2014, 05:25 PM

Will do. right now I'm just using RTV sealer for the gasket and it works great. I've read a lot of good things about this method and thought I would give it a show.

So about the whole "never EVER ending" thing in this post. This tractor is just killing me guys

Part of the deal (sit tight cuz here's where I open up and rant to you all) is that I really have nothing to compare what a good tractor or setting on a tractor should be. This makes it very difficult to setup and tune something when you have zero to go off of. The posts and YouTube videos are major help but still leaves a lot out. I now this tread is about creeper parts but it's creeping

into a vent thread for me. Again, sorry

J-Mech · #6 09-03-2014, 05:57 PM

Gene,

You obviously are not any kind of mechanic. I personally think you are really pushing your limits. I suggest finding a good mechanic. Perhaps a local independent would be willing to work with you. I personally think that you (this goes for EVERYONE) should "know your limits" and abide by them. For me, it's computers. I don't fool with the stupid things. I have a brother who does, and I let him fix mine. I don't tear mine apart and go looking on forums to see if someone can walk me through it. Wouldn't matter if I did, I'd be as lost as if you had dropped me into the middle of a South American jungle. I'm a smart guy, but I draw my own line in the sand when it comes to some things. I'm sure I can figure them out, but I have better ways of spending my time than trying to start at "101" but needing to be at "801". Know what I mean? Hope you don't think I'm being mean, because I don't mean to be at all. I just think that perhaps you would be more happy driving your cub, than always trying to learn how to fix it.

Oh, and RTV is not always a good substitute for a gasket. Sometimes, on some things it's fine. Such as the rear cover on a trans. But, there are some places that it's better if you use a gasket. I suggest spending the $5 on a roll of gasket material and making one for your creeper. Just my

johncub7172 · #7 09-05-2014, 12:50 AM

I think there is three seals, where there is one per side of the hi/lo selection lever, and the input shaft?

I have never personally gone through a creeper and rebuilt one. Mine is leaking from the vent because I over filled the sucker.

Get out to some plow days, tractor shows, and get-togethers. Heck, I've even hung around the pullers. They can help you tune your 108 in as well.

J-Mech · #8 09-05-2014, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johncub7172

I think there is three seals, where there is one per side of the hi/lo selection lever, and the input shaft?

Yes, there is a seal on input and o-rings on the shift lever. I didn't think about those. But that would require some disassembly to change the o-rings. The gasket and seal can be changed easily.

johncub7172 · #9 09-05-2014, 01:36 AM

I agree, if it's not broke, don't fix it! Another item to consider is installing a new coil pin ( to the coupler ), unless you feel what comes out is satisfactory. I really hate to be under a job, and have to get up to run to the parts store. It's about two dollars worth of good insurance, lol! Replacement gear lube, not to mention.

Sam Mac · #10 09-05-2014, 07:54 AM

Gene

The service manual explains how to service the creeper.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=4644

They are not that complicated.

Just my 2 cents but you need to accept that you are dealing with a vintage tractor. Things will need attention. If it's overwhelming you may want to consider something newer. Flip side is that you can look at it as an educational experience. When it's finished you can look at what you have accomplished. Everyone of these things I work teaches me something new.