gasoline with 10% ethanol

[fdinger]

This may have been discussed here before, but has anybody been using E-10 gasoline in their tractors? I haul the darn stuff and we changed our stations in this area in the past 2 weeks to E-10 ( I can still get Reg. Gas from other stations if I have to), but was wondering if anyone was having trouble with carburetors on the tractors ? I'm not a big fan of it or the Bio Diesel , but Uncle Sam is going to make all gas stations use it in time. Bio has to be in use at all pumps in PA by the end of May.

I've never had a problem using the e10 while others complain constantly....go figure.

I get regular gas here too now as a local station started advertising last week, about $.12 more but......

Scott

[Merk]

I've been running E10 base gas for years (have access to a local still). The key to any fuel is keeping it fresh. All my fuel is on a 30 day gas rule. Any gas (2 and 4 cycle) that is 30 days old is dump into one of my autos. I add a fuel stablizer to my fuel containers before the container(s) are filled. Two good fuel stablizers are Sta-Bil and the one Briggs and Stratton sells. The key to any fuel is how you store your fuel.

I've had no carb carb or fuel line problems on E10 gas.

[Matt G.]

I haven't had a lot of problems, but it does go bad much faster than gas used to. The biggest issue I've noticed is that some plastic parts in older engines shrink, dry out, and otherwise get destroyed by this stuff. Not sure why that is.

[Cub Cadet 123]

The Merkle gas is barely legal and highly volatile!!! haha...As far as the traditional gas, the gov. requires the use of a special chemical additive to comply with the Clean Air Act. The abbreviation of the chemical is MTBE, which is carcinogenic!!! It cannot be boiled out of water, filtered out, or anything so if it does reach the water table, then it could be an ecological disaster. In fact, entire towns have been shut down because filling stations tanks leaked it out into the water table. Without potable water, the town could not exist so property value went to $0 and the people abandoned the town.....think that was out west somewhere. The E-10 has always worked fine for me, of course I've only used it for about the past year and a half and as previously mentioned, the fuel stabilizer additive by StaBil makes it work even better, but still doesn't hold a candle to the Merkle Gas!

Cub Cadet 123

Originally Posted by Cub Cadet 123

The Merkle gas is barely legal and highly volatile!!! haha...As far as the traditional gas, the gov. requires the use of a special chemical additive to comply with the Clean Air Act. The abbreviation of the chemical is MTBE, which is carcinogenic!!! It cannot be boiled out of water, filtered out, or anything so if it does reach the water table, then it could be an ecological disaster. In fact, entire towns have been shut down because filling stations tanks leaked it out into the water table. Without potable water, the town could not exist so property value went to $0 and the people abandoned the town.....think that was out west somewhere. The E-10 has always worked fine for me, of course I've only used it for about the past year and a half and as previously mentioned, the fuel stabilizer additive by StaBil makes it work even better, but still doesn't hold a candle to the Merkle Gas!

Cub Cadet 123

Where can I find one of these towns?

Scott

[Yosemite Sam]

I know that our local refinery (about 30 miles from here) refines crude, then blends it with whatever additives are needed to make the gasoline (or whatever the finished product is) "brand specific". Then ships it to all local stations, no matter what brand they sell. They (the refinery) also have a number of underground pipelines and they push product from here to Chicago, Indianapolis, Lambert field (St. Louis), Effingham Il. and lord only knows where else. Fuel that is transported through underground pipelines normally doesn't get "brand specific" additives until gets closer to it's destination because the same fuel (leaving here) is sold to a number of different brand retailers, so it's normally blended at or on it's way to "that brands" holding tank.

I've never said anything about gas before, because I don't want to sound like a "big shot" or anything, but I don't know that I have ever had a fuel related problem with any gasoline engine (this could also be nothing more than plain old dumb luck). I buy my gas locally (from a busy station) and sometimes (like in the winter) I'll have a couple of five gallon cans that will set two or three months before being used. The only time I ever use any kind of fuel treatment, is when I add seafoam to a tank, for something that I think may be cruddy on the inside, and I've never bought or used Stabil (although my Brother, who lives across the street from me, does on a regular basis).

I believe that a lot of "bad fuel" problems depend on how far the fuel (finished product) has traveled and how long it takes to get there, along with how long it sets before you actually buy it. I have no scientific evidence but I also think that pumping fuel through hundreds and hundreds of miles of underground steel pipe doesn't do it any good and I really don't care for the fact that diesel fuel was pumped through this pipe one minute and gasoline the next.

In short, I blame my lack of fuel related problems on having a refinery practically in my back yard and the freshest fuel on the market at my fingertips pretty-much any time I want/need it. Although for other reasons I don't know that I really care so much for having a refinery in my back yard. I guess every silver lining has a black cloud in it.

[fdinger]

well like I said I wanted to get some opinions on if any of you guys have used it on a regular thing. I do know with some of the earlier cars it was screwing up the o-rins in the fuel systems and fuel rails but the mfgs. have changed compounds on these things in the newer models so not much of an issue anymore, but here again the cubs are older

[Merk]

by Cub Cadet 123
The Merkle gas is barely legal and highly volatile!!!

by Yosemite Sam
The only time I ever use any kind of fuel treatment, is when I add seafoam to a tank, for something that I think may be cruddy on the inside, and I've never bought or used Stabil (although my Brother, who lives across the street from me, does on a regular basis).

check out Kohler FAQ questions that ask about adding oil or fuel additives in a Kohler motor:
http://review.engines2008.kohler.com...nance/faqs.htm

Kohler doesn't want the small motor owner to use fuel additives. Sea Foam is a fuel additive and a poor one for small motors. Sea Foam claims it's product can be used as a fuel stablizer. It didn't work for me. Both Kohler motors were down on power. One would quit runnning. I drain the gas out of both Cubs and refill the tractors with non sea foam gas. Both were running like they should. Both fuel containers were filled at the same time.

When I go to a plow day I like to test a few things.....fuel is one of my test I will do. Sea Foam was tested at a plow day.

[ole 147]

Well fdinger If U buy UR gas at different places.U probley used it and didn't know it.
10 should be ok I just don't let it set in the carb for extended periods of time.
ole 147