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Old 01-27-2014, 09:17 PM
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Default Driveshaft & Leak on an O
I took the driveshaft out of one of my O's because I sheared my pin last summer, but never got around to re-installing it. I put a large sheet of cardboard underneath the cub since I have a gravel floor in my garage and when I went out this fall/winter to look at it, I noticed oil soaked into the cardboard. It never leaked before, so I was wondering if a seal went bad or if the driveshaft exerts pressure on a seal and since it isn't installed, a leak formed. Thanks in advance for your assistance and advice.

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Old 01-28-2014, 06:28 AM
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If you have your shaft out, the seal just makes the hole there a little smaller. You still have the hole were the shaft once was don't you? I'm confused..
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But I believe what CC123 is trying to say is that he removed the driveshaft (not the input stub in the reduction housing) and now, the seal for the input shaft into the reduction housing is leaking?

Because the "O" has a movable driveshaft (bolt holes are slotted to allow for tightening of the belt) the shaft cannot be mounted solidly, but instead has the fiber disc between the driveshaft and the input shaft into the reduction housing. Over time, the spiral pin will wear and can shear off, dis-connecting the fiber disc from the input shaft. I believe that is what happened to CC123's "O".

I do not believe that the driveshaft exerts any additional pressure onto the input shaft to keep the seal centered. There IS a pin from the driveshaft that goes through the fiber disc and into the input shaft. This helps keep the driveshaft aligned with the input shaft, but it doesn't assist in centering the input shaft to the seal.

My suggestion would be to swap out the seal, which is made easier by already having the driveshaft removed. I'll be doing the same thing shortly on one of my "O"s. Not having done this prior, this will be a new adventure for me too. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance beyond this point.
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Old 01-28-2014, 10:27 AM
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But I believe what CC123 is trying to say is that he removed the driveshaft (not the input stub in the reduction housing) and now, the seal for the input shaft into the reduction housing is leaking?

Because the "O" has a movable driveshaft (bolt holes are slotted to allow for tightening of the belt) the shaft cannot be mounted solidly, but instead has the fiber disc between the driveshaft and the input shaft into the reduction housing. Over time, the spiral pin will wear and can shear off, dis-connecting the fiber disc from the input shaft. I believe that is what happened to CC123's "O".

I do not believe that the driveshaft exerts any additional pressure onto the input shaft to keep the seal centered. There IS a pin from the driveshaft that goes through the fiber disc and into the input shaft. This helps keep the driveshaft aligned with the input shaft, but it doesn't assist in centering the input shaft to the seal.

My suggestion would be to swap out the seal, which is made easier by already having the driveshaft removed. I'll be doing the same thing shortly on one of my "O"s. Not having done this prior, this will be a new adventure for me too. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance beyond this point.
C5Rider, thank you...you hit the nail right on the head and that is exactly what I was trying to put into words. That O has never leaked before my removal of the driveshaft, so I was wondering if it was exerting pressure or something to explain why it started leaking right after I removed the driveshaft.

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C5Rider, thank you...you hit the nail right on the head and that is exactly what I was trying to put into words. That O has never leaked before my removal of the driveshaft, so I was wondering if it was exerting pressure or something to explain why it started leaking right after I removed the driveshaft.

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My O is not in front of me so I'm dangerously working from memory. I don't believe the normal oil level is as high as the input shaft seal. Accordingly I don't think even with no seal at all there would be a significant static input shaft oil leak. I'd check closely for another lower leak source-reduction housing gasket, drain plug, axle seals, rear cover etc.
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