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Old 08-03-2013, 08:03 AM
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Default Ooph. Bad morning...

Yesterday, I finally got to ride my old 122 with it's new air cleaner. Real nice. Good deal on ebay...but it didn't come with mounting screws. No problem. trip to the hardware store and I was ready to go, or so I thought....

My choke was stuck. Now, I had put the air cleaner on the day before and I didn't realize what is probably obvious to you right now - the screws were holding it in place. I pulled on the choke. Hard. A little too hard. Brass on the carb end SHEARED right off.

Crap.

So I took the air cleaner cover off to figure this out. Then I realized what had happened - the screws were too long and it was holding the choke in place. Great. Well, now I have no way to open and close the choke. So, I used a screw driver, jammed into the choke and decided to start it while I was standing to the side of the tractor. Pushed the brake, messed with the choke - STARTED RIGHT UP!

Yippie, right?

It was in gear. Let off the brake and it took off. Now, here's the second problem - I have a stuck PTO. Rather than rebuild it, I've elected to leave it and deal with it for the time being. This machine is my mower all summer, then leaf pick up it becomes my hauler. So. The machine took off, I fell (no worries, I didn't get hurt....but...) the air cleaner and air cleaner cover fell under the mower and were chewed up and spit out. Great.

So. Now I'm out a new air cleaner cover and I guess I'm looking at buying a new carburetor.....which is part of the reason I tell this cautionary tale.

What are my options for carbs? I know the k301 is pretty universal. I saw a 129 carb somewhere, I assume it's the same part, but don't really know.

Any wisdom? Obviously, I could use some...
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:06 AM
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Other than that, how did it go?

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Old 08-03-2013, 10:35 AM
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Wisdom? Hmm...one lesson that was always instilled upon me by my dad was check to make sure you are in neutral before you ever turn a key so now, even on hydro's (which sometimes throws me for a loop ), I always check to make sure the tractor isn't going to move when I turn that key. And when I teach people how to drive a tractor, same thing; make sure it's in neutral.

As far as your broken carb, do you have any pics? You MAY just be able to replace the sheared part. Which reminds me, more wisdom: before I ever put a bolt in any of my machines that I didn't take out or know for SURE what size it is, I reference the Cub Part Lookup to make sure I get the right size for a proper fit, would have solved your problem straight away.

As far as the PTO, fix that puppy! I'm pretty sure rebuild kits are decently priced but I'll let others advise you on that as I haven't rebuilt one yet. And air cleaners are pretty easy to come by, post up in the Wanted section and you should have one in quick order.

Other than all that, glad you're ok!!
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:21 AM
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I'd say your lucky the air cleaner is the only thing that got chopped up. Could have easily been your foot!! Why don't you fix that PTO before you, or something of more value than an air filter gets chewed up

But hey, it's your tractor........ so, whatever.
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:30 PM
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Agreed, get that PTO squared away asap. Not being in control of your blades is just asking for trouble.

Sorry about your terrible run, been there done that.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:00 PM
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Yesterday, I finally got to ride my old 122 with it's new air cleaner. Real nice. Good deal on ebay...but it didn't come with mounting screws. No problem. trip to the hardware store and I was ready to go, or so I thought....

My choke was stuck. Now, I had put the air cleaner on the day before and I didn't realize what is probably obvious to you right now - the screws were holding it in place. I pulled on the choke. Hard. A little too hard. Brass on the carb end SHEARED right off.

Crap.

So I took the air cleaner cover off to figure this out. Then I realized what had happened - the screws were too long and it was holding the choke in place. Great. Well, now I have no way to open and close the choke. So, I used a screw driver, jammed into the choke and decided to start it while I was standing to the side of the tractor. Pushed the brake, messed with the choke - STARTED RIGHT UP!

Yippie, right?

It was in gear. Let off the brake and it took off. Now, here's the second problem - I have a stuck PTO. Rather than rebuild it, I've elected to leave it and deal with it for the time being. This machine is my mower all summer, then leaf pick up it becomes my hauler. So. The machine took off, I fell (no worries, I didn't get hurt....but...) the air cleaner and air cleaner cover fell under the mower and were chewed up and spit out. Great.

So. Now I'm out a new air cleaner cover and I guess I'm looking at buying a new carburetor.....which is part of the reason I tell this cautionary tale.

What are my options for carbs? I know the k301 is pretty universal. I saw a 129 carb somewhere, I assume it's the same part, but don't really know.

Any wisdom? Obviously, I could use some...
Sorry to hear about your mishap. Safety 1st!
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:00 PM
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No need to get a new carb just get a new choke shaft. Easy to do
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Old 08-03-2013, 07:16 PM
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Having had my air cleaner fall off while mowing and get bent severely under the mower deck, I found replacements on fleabay.

The thing with the too long screws - been there, done that. As stuff happens, you will learn, as we all did.

Fix the PTO! I have started my 100 while standing beside it with my foot near the edge of the mower deck. Hit the starter, and watched the blade turning about an inch away from my shoe. The PTO turnbuckle was adjusted just a little loose after rebuilding the deck. Close. Too close. You got to pay attention around these machines. I now won't start the tractor without sitting in the seat.

Anyway, good luck with your cub!
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Sorry to hear about your mishap.
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Old 08-04-2013, 07:42 PM
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Well....

I offered up the story knowing full well the rash of you-know-what I might get. I have answers for almost every concern, but even in my head they sound more like excuses. So let's just leave it at that.

I knew better. I did it anyway. So, anyone reading this story - read it as a cautionary tale, and I'll feel as though it served a purpose.

I'll take a pic tomorrow of the carb. The place where the choke cable meets the choke is what is sheered off - right against the carb. The choke moves freely, I just don't have a way to make it do so easily. I was able to start it sitting down, which alleviates most of my concern. It isn't ideal, of course.

The PTO has been an issue. It works, it has a button that seems to be welded into the PTO. Again, not ideal. It might require an entire rebuild.

I rescued this Cub from a kid who was saving up for a truck and was going to use this for a pulling machine...he modified a few things, and I'm still dealing with the repercussions! That being said, it still has a strong motor and it's been a tank for me.

All of these things will be fixed in time...it's a matter of budget and getting the time to do it.

Still, I hate to think I might have to carry a screw driver with me to start the tractor. That's where I draw my redneck line.
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