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Old 03-06-2013, 06:36 PM
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Default Kohler 301 problem after it heats up??

Hi All, Im coming to the experts again with a question. I have an easy starting, perfectly running motor, for 10-15 minutes. Then it coughs & sputters & stalls out. It continues to do so until I let it cool. I can still easily rotate the motor by hand, even immediately after it stalls. - The gas & tank is clean, I even swapped out the carb with a known good one; still the same problem. I purchased this 122 from someone, so I dont know the history behind it.
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It could be a lot of things, but it sounds like it has something to do with heat. You may want to check the Timing.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:38 PM
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Im reading the service manual now on how to do that... I didn't realize that heat could have anything to do with timing.
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Check the Coil. Sounds like it is going bad on you.

Here is the coil link and how to trouble shoot it:
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11

Just like in a car, if the timing is out then your cylinder isn't firing correctly and could be causing an increase in heat.

Here is a link on setting your timing. Probably wouldn't hurt a thing just to check it.
http://mgonitzke.net16.net/tools/static_timing.pdf
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You have to determine is it's a fuel or spark problem. Also common for an exhaust valve starting to seize.
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Thanks for the info, DX3, I can't get that link to open on setting the timing, does it live somewhere else? I hope it's not the exhaust valve seizing.....
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Coil or condenser will do that when they heat up.
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I think DX3 hit the nail on the head with the coil. My 125 had the exact same symptoms last summer. It would run 15-20 minutes start skipping and sputtering and eventually just die. I replaced the coil and runs like a champ now.
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Thanks for the info, DX3, I can't get that link to open on setting the timing, does it live somewhere else? I hope it's not the exhaust valve seizing.....
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Yeah, the link is on a members website. It came up for me. Its a PDF file. If you look into the Tractor Tech Library that we have, there is also another link for how to do the timing. But I honestly think you have a coil issue. If you replace the coil, I would do the whole setup and replace the points and condenser all at the same time and be fresh.
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agreed with the above statement. good luck
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