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Old 07-31-2012, 03:02 PM
palmercadet72 palmercadet72 is offline
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Hi, I'm new to the site and I was hoping someone out there can help me.

I have a cadet 72 with the creeper gear, but the transmission must have broken while plowing and now the machine stays ONLY in creeper gear, I can't shift back to the regular speed transmission. I've been working on pulling everything apart and now I'm about ready to take out the transmission and creeper housing. All help is appreciated! Thank you!
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:59 PM
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The trans isn't broken......creeper is.

The creaper was not design to do any hard wheel driven work such as plowing. The creeper was design to slow wheel speed down. It was only design to work with the tiller and snow thrower.

It is hard to say what is broke until you get the creeper apart.
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:50 PM
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The creeper is bolted to the transmission and it does slow the wheels down with a 2:1 reduction ratio. IH designed this for mowing heavy grass, plowing gardens (that's what I was doing), pushing snow, and hauling with a smaller engine. It improves the torque at the expense of tractor speed. I think the problem may be the roll pin attached to the shift poppet in the creep drive unit, is that plausible?
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:56 PM
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The creeper is bolted to the transmission and it does slow the wheels down with a 2:1 reduction ratio. IH designed this for mowing heavy grass, plowing gardens (that's what I was doing), pushing snow, and hauling with a smaller engine. It improves the torque at the expense of tractor speed.
The creeper is a 4 to 1 reduction.....not a 2 to 1. Can you provide information where the it is ok to put a heavy load on the creeper?

I have a stock 70 that pulls a 10 inch plow. It does not have a creeper in it.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:37 PM
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I've been preaching what Dale(Merk) is talking about for a while now and people don't want to listen. Creepers were not designed to pull heavy loads. They were designed to allow the engine to be at full speed to spin a tiller or snowblower and maintain the slow speeds needed for those applications.

All of these tractors have plenty of power to pull your plow through the ground without a creeper. You will run out of traction before you run out of power.

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Old 07-31-2012, 08:39 PM
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my 100 creeper did the exact same thing. it was a roll pin slid down out of place. i took it off and stuck a punch in the drain hole and drove it back together.
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I'm with AJ and Dale on this. Creepers are for using snow throwers and tillers. The parts for your creeper are NLA. To me they are the weak link in the drive line.
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I'm with AJ and Dale on this. Creepers are for using snow throwers and tillers. The parts for your creeper are NLA. To me they are the weak link in the drive line.
Ditto!

Welcome to the site. I've got a couple cubs with creepers. Mine are used for playing around such as snowthrowing and tilling. No plowing whatsoever because I don't want to trash the creeper gear. Got any pics???
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Old 08-01-2012, 02:27 PM
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i wouldn't put a load on a creeper either. looking at those gears in there, they are so small and can be easily broken. im afraid sometimes to use the creeper climbing a hill with my 122.
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