Rear-End issue

[Poor 104 Owner]

I got the 104 running easy enough. I moved it around a few times but only used 1 &R. I went to put it in 2 & 3 but it wouldn't go in. I pulled the shifter cover off and had to use a crow bar to get the 2-3 gears to move at all. Now I can get it to go into 2 (i think) but when returning to neutral or trying to go to 3 it gets stuck and I have to pry it to get it to move I drained the oil from the trans and it was orange (???) I didn't look like it had water in it by what I have read it clumps up or is just floating the oil. I tried to use WD-40 to lube the gears on the shaft but that didn't help. No visible signs of rust/corrsion to any of the parts. Wondering if any of the experts on here have a quick (cheap) fix and also wondering if I should pull the trans and gut it to ensure that there is on broken/ corroded parts?

[Donovan M.]

you have to split it and pull it apart.

[jbrewer]

Hello!

Is the shifter fork bolt tight (the one that holds the fork to the rod?)

The teeth have to mesh in order to change gears. I'd not be prying on them until you find out what's holding it up.

Pictures are a help

John

[Poor 104 Owner]

Yes the fork bolt is tight took it out to ensure that the rod was not the issue . The rod can be moved both ways easy . there is no visible obstruction to stop the gears from moving . Once put in to 2nd it gets stuck / binds when returning to neutral so I would guess that would eliminate a gear mesh issue. will not go into 3rd at all not even close to the gear to hit . I'll try to get pics of the inside when I can do it without risk of getting rain in it have to work outside my garage/shed is FULL to the gills

[jbrewer]

Is this tractor new to you? If not was this a gradually occurring problem or something that happened all of a sudden


Are the rear wheels in the air as you're trying to change the gears? There's not a lot that can cause the gears to "stick". They slide on a splined shaft and unless the trans was stored dry it's hard to imagine that it would rust. If the rear wheels are on the ground, or if the brake is on, it may be hard to move the gears on the shaft if there's any load on the transmission. Try jacking up the back of the tractor, and move the gears while you turn the rear wheels.

Also possible...is the shifter free to move and is it's "selector plate" in the right orientation (there's pictures here for shifter repair ). Ditch the pry bar... that's going to cause trouble.

Are you sure you have the gears/rods oriented in a logical position relative to the shifter handle...to each other?

Some staring at the shifter handle and the forks/rods sure helped me in understanding how to get it back together.

John

When you loosen the forks can you feel the rod move thru its 3 detents?

[Poor 104 Owner]

found the issue when I pulled the rear end and dismantled it seems the topshaft off the bull gear is bent aprox 1/32" .

Looks like I need to get a new(er) one would the used ones from the sponsor be okay or would it be better to spend the extra $25-$30 on one of the new high grade ones?

[Methos]

Originally Posted by Poor 104 Owner

found the issue when I pulled the rear end and dismantled it seems the topshaft off the bull gear is bent aprox 1/32" .

Looks like I need to get a new(er) one would the used ones from the sponsor be okay or would it be better to spend the extra $25-$30 on one of the new high grade ones?

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[Poor 104 Owner]

After several hours with a dremmel I got the shaft to work properly and spent several more hours preping and painting the rear end
Well here it is now

[ACecil]

Great job!

[Methos]

Originally Posted by Poor 104 Owner

After several hours with a dremmel I got the shaft to work properly and spent several more hours preping and painting the rear end
Well here it is now

Awesome news!