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Old 08-26-2011, 09:41 PM
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I have been looking on eBay to find a starter for the starter upgrade. There are so many models, 9 tooth, 11 tooth, CCW, etc. plus multiple models to fit different tractors. Does anyone have starter model that positively worked for the upgrade? I really don't want to buy one and then have to return.exchange it.
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This is in our Technical Library:

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1
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Old 08-26-2011, 10:42 PM
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Thanks DX3, I'll get it ordered right away.
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Old 09-01-2011, 01:05 PM
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I have just checked on the status of my starters (I ordered 2, one for the 782D and one for the 1572), and they are scheduled for delivery today by the end of day. I was also thinking about performing the glow-plug upgrade. Since the starter has the extra wire coming off of it for power, could I just use this power to run another Ford-type starter solenoid to light the glow plugs at the same time the start is engaged? I could just use the signal for the start solenoid for that matter. What do you think? I know that it would be un-needed then the engine is hot or in warm weather.
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42" L42 (Bush Hog) Rotary Cutter # 190349
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48" Haban Rotortiller Rear PTO Driven #190356
54" SnowBlade with hydraulic Angle #196376
60" Haban Mowing Deck #196374
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Old 09-01-2011, 02:15 PM
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I ordered my starter from a place through Amazon and I hope to have it tomorrow!!! The glow plug mod is next for mine as well!
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Old 09-01-2011, 02:21 PM
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Even in warm weather, you'll want the glow plugs to warm unless the engine is already hot. I would think you would drain the battery down and wear out the starter if you were to let the glow plugs warm only when the starter is engaged.
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Old 09-01-2011, 02:53 PM
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aagitch, even with the glow plug upgrade with the glowplugs that are fast acting?
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54" SnowBlade with hydraulic Angle #196376
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Yes even with the upgrades, that starting procedure needs to remain the same.
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The procedure remains the same, the time required for the glow plugs is shorter. My 782D went from needing about 25 seconds to needing 5-8 after the modification.

If someone wants me to draw a modified 782D wiring diagram for the glow plug mod, I can probably do that.
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I would think you wouldn't want to energize the starter and the glow plugs at the same time and place that heavy of a load on the battery. Heat the plugs then energize the starter.
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