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Old 08-01-2016, 01:06 AM
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Started getting the 1250 back into a good working order today. Got her into my small shop and pulled the engine. I had 2 bolts missing from the right side of the oil pan. Other than that, nothing else was much of a surprise. Going to do the cradle mod and see the condition of the pan to determine what is needed next. Going to go with solid mounts. I think the driveshaft couplers are due. I have grease oozing out of the steering box. What do I need to get it back into good shape? It has a bit of play in it but nothing ii would consider excessive. I don't feel any play in the axle pivot. I think I may need a new head gasket or is this normal for a 40 year old Kohler?
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Old 08-01-2016, 01:08 AM
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One more question.

I thought ii read somewhere that if the dipstick iis on top of the Kohler then it doesn't have balance gears. Can someone confirm this?
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Old 08-01-2016, 07:34 AM
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One more question.

I thought ii read somewhere that if the dipstick iis on top of the Kohler then it doesn't have balance gears. Can someone confirm this?
The quiet line engines did not have balance gears
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:25 AM
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I'd replace that head gasket and flatten the head.
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Old 08-01-2016, 11:32 AM
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That is normal for a 40 yr old Kohler that has a warped head and in need of a gasket. Be sure to sand the head flat on a piece of glass before reinstalling it.

No balance gears in that engine.

Gotta take the steering gear apart and inspect the pieces, be sure to consult a good exploded view of the the steering gear and inspect the cups closely.
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Old 08-01-2016, 01:07 PM
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Thanks everyone for the great advice. Please mention anything else that should be done while I am at this stage!
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The quiet line engines did not have balance gears
the 301 aqs engine HAS balance gears. all the QL engines I have rebuilt have had them in but are removed in the rebuild
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:17 PM
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Took head off engine. I think the piston looks good!!! Let's see if anyone else disagrees.

Thanks TwoTon! I love having all the links in this thread. Super helpful for anyone searching! Your a great asset to the site. Read through your long, long thread the other night. Picked up a bit here and there from it. It shows how fast someone can go from a mild fix to a complete restoration!

OK, this sucks! I have 1 vote that it has balance gears and 1 that says it doesn't... UUGGRRHHGG!!! Which is it? Let me add serial number. 7425521. K301AQS. Spec 47581d

The pan does had a very minor amount of contact at the cradle points but I couldn't tell a difference in it from the side that still had the bolts. Only it was shiny. I think this may have been the perfect time to pull the engine and address the cradle.
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Good luck with the repairs. Certainly a wealth of knowledge on this site.

Here is a link to the manual for the K301 engine

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http://www.kohlerengines.com/onlinec...1346_c_all.pdf

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http://www.kohlerengines.com/onlinec...df/tp_2379.pdf

Perhaps it can help figuring out if there are balance gears.
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the 301 aqs engine HAS balance gears. all the QL engines I have rebuilt have had them in but are removed in the rebuild
Correct. The k321aqs in my 1450 had them until I removed them. My first 1450 did not have balance gears. But to say the Quiet Line aqs engines never came with balance gears is a very false statement.
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