682 and Kwik-Way loader project

[ACecil]

Looks awesome, Matt.

[Methos]

Awesome Matt! Your in the home strech now and pretty soon you can start playing with it.

[Mountain Heritage]

Looks good Matt! So you have any plans of changing the tires on this unit to something a little more aggresive? Nice job on the paint and the waxing!

[Matt G.]

Originally Posted by Mountain Heritage

So you have any plans of changing the tires on this unit to something a little more aggresive?

No need. If I put anything but the bald, worn tires on the front, it will get hard to steer. I'm going to add a few hundred pounds of weights and I have a set of chains for the rear tires for winter. New tires are too expensive for me right now. The money is better spent on other parts.

[Matt G.]

The loader is sort of working. I added hydraulic fluid 7 times (there's about 6 1/2 quarts in it now), and I spun the pump by hand until it started turning with more resistance to prime it. I started it and the tilt works pretty good, but I managed to switch the hoses for the lift cylinders, so it's backwards and fighting the restricted swivels in two of the lines that prevent the bucket from lowering too quickly. After I switch those around, it should work fine. I haven't found any major leaks yet. I had one sort of loose return line that leaked at first, but hasn't since I tightened it. One tilt cylinder was drooling a bit, but the drip was very dirty, so I'm hoping that was assembly oil from something washing out some dirt that was still in there somewhere.

I also need to figure out why the tractor's charging system no longer works

[johncub7172]

Very nice! I like it. So how do you think those front spindels are gonna hold up? Just wondering because I thought my 42"IH push-blade was heavy. Of course I cant hold a candel to your knowledge of these machines, but recall seeing some where a 4-lug front wheel up-grade for these applications. O-well, I understand about money being better spent......my local dealer wants 16.95 for a spray can of yellow paint and 15.00 for a rear gasket for the transsmission, And I didnot want to know how much the CC Hy-tran fulid was gonna run. Keep up the awesome work!

[Matt G.]

I switched the backwards hoses around on my loader, but that didn't solve my problem. The lift cylinders are agonizingly slow going up; it would probably take a minute or so for full extension. The tilt cylinders cannot tilt the bucket back up. It goes down great. If I try to actuate both levers at once, it just stops. The reservoir is about 2/3 full warm, and the belt is not slipping. I could put a smaller pulley on the pump, but it seems to be slow regardless of engine speed. I remember it being slow when it was on the 124, but not this slow. I put a very large spin-on filter on the inlet side of the pump, and I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it. The lift cylinder hoses for the 'down' part of the cylinder have a swivel with a restriction in them...the hole is probably 1/8" or smaller.

Does anyone have any suggestions for things I could check? After almost 2 months of work and hundreds of dollars, the only thing this thing does is look nice. I'm VERY disappointed and about ready to drive it off a cliff.

johncub7172-

Your front blade is very light in comparison to this loader; the loader probably weighs 350-400 lbs. It steers kind of hard, but I see that I have a low tire. I could care less about that at the moment, I just wish it worked.

[jbollis]

I am sure you checked, but is the filter housing plumbed the rite direction ? Is the filter itself able to handle the flow rate ? and maybe bypass the filter completely, Just to be sure there is not something weird going on because if it.

[Matt G.]

The filter is plumbed correctly, and it has 3/4" NPT ports in and out, so I'm assuming it can handle the flow. I have 3/8" lines going in and out of it.

[Matt G.]

Update: I changed the leaky hose and put a 5000 psi gauge right at the inlet to the valve. With the tilt cylinders fully extended, the gauge barely came off the peg. I'm guessing between 75 and 125 psi. The relief valve on the control valve is supposed to be 1000 psi, and I can adjust the one on the pump. I'm going to swap out the relief valve on the control valve from the other control valve that I have (the original one...I rebuilt a spare I had and that is what is now on the tractor) and if that doesn't help, I'll try to adjust the relief valve on the pump. I really hope the pump isn't bad, as that whole front piece is pretty much designed around this pump...

Also, my dad stood in the bucket and it wouldn't lift him, and he's not much of a load.