My 1450 project officially started today - Page 6

_DX3_ · #51 04-18-2011, 05:53 PM

You should see if Bales still has those service stickers and get you a new one and put it on after you do a paint job sometime in the future!

CC1450 · #52 04-18-2011, 06:15 PM

I did not have much time to look around while I was there, I saw some MTD made cubs but they don't do anything for me.

I think I followed every tractor, hay wagon, construction crew and other slow moving vehicle in the county on the way there. I don't often get impatient driving, I was about to gnaw my steering wheel in half on the way there.

When I came inside the shop I went to the parts desk and the guy there was speaking to another employee. Something about getting a part they needed right away from a tractor "out back" rather than ordering it.

I didn't ask to look, but I was thinking maybe I should have asked just because. No telling what they might have back there.

CC1450 · #53 04-19-2011, 01:03 PM

progress has slowed significantly due to cold and rainy weather. It's raining cats, dogs and probably some other things today.

I brought the carb from the '76 inside this morning after draining it outside. I've got a workbench in my basement that is much warmer than the one in the garage and will take the carb apart at lunch time. At least that way I accomplish something.

Can any of the 14hp kohler guys give me a pic or brief run down of the fuel system on their tractor? The kohler service book shows all sorts of hardware that does not appear to apply to me like 2 stage regulators and electric chokes.

What I am most curious about is why neither of my tractors have a fuel filter and if perhaps I am missing something other than a filter. I've got a rubber line straight from tank valve to carb on both.

westofb · #54 04-19-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1450

progress has slowed significantly due to cold and rainy weather. It's raining cats, dogs and probably some other things today.

I brought the carb from the '76 inside this morning after draining it outside. I've got a workbench in my basement that is much warmer than the one in the garage and will take the carb apart at lunch time. At least that way I accomplish something.

Can any of the 14hp kohler guys give me a pic or brief run down of the fuel system on their tractor? The kohler service book shows all sorts of hardware that does not appear to apply to me like 2 stage regulators and electric chokes.

What I am most curious about is why neither of my tractors have a fuel filter and if perhaps I am missing something other than a filter. I've got a rubber line straight from tank valve to carb on both.

I don't think they came with fuel filters from the factory, your fuel shut off mounted in the tank should have a filter screen on it (it is inside the tank, you won't see it unless you remove the shut off valve). I would recommend you get an inline filter for it, they are very cheap insurance to keep crap out of the carb, just by the age of the tractors you have, the fuel tanks are bound to have a more than gasoine alone in them. The 2 stage regulators you mention are for LP (propane) tractors and I don't believe any of these tractors had electric choke. You have to remember kohler made variations of these engines for lots of different applications, so when they put out there manual it has to cover them all.

Oh yeah, make changing your newly installed inline filter part of your routine maintainence program, change it out at least yealy, they are cheap ($2-4.00) so I change mine out spring and fall!

CC1450 · #55 04-19-2011, 04:03 PM

Thanks for chiming in Jeff, I appreciate the input. I was hoping there was not some missing part I would need to scour around for to make this run right.

I agree wholeheartedly about adding an inline filter, and will add one to the list. I have not had a chance to tear into that '76 carb yet today, my phone has been ringing off the hook and my mom popped by to drop her dog off on me. It will happen though.

_DX3_ · #56 04-19-2011, 04:06 PM

Go ahead and add an inline shut off valve too. The factory one bit of a pain to get too.

CC1450 · #57 04-19-2011, 04:15 PM

I noticed I have two different valves on the two tanks. The one on the '78 is a twist type and the one on the '76 is a pull/slide.

I also have started to think about steering. While the '78 has much less slop in the wheel, it takes a lot more effort than the '76 to turn. I was two handing it with a good deal of effort when I drove the '78. Looks like I will need to read more into that, I have seen other posts about it here and there. I also saw some sort of power steering add on but I will not be going that route.

CC1450 · #58 04-19-2011, 09:10 PM

finally found a good use for those tiny wire wheels I bought for my dremel tool, polishing carb needles.

Shined them up nice compared to how they were. Made sure I could blow through the length of the high speed needle, she's clean and clear.

Found the float bowl vent hole and ran a piece of wire through it. It was clean and definitely not blocked. For the other guys who were wondering, it comes up the side of the casting from the bowl area and then pulls a 90 degree turn towards the top of the carb's intake port. You can see it's passageway cast into the carb casting. If you think yours may be blocked take your air filter housing off and run a pipe cleaner through it to clear it without removing the carb.

Put it together with the rebuild kit and if all goes well it will be good as new. It was missing one of the two gaskets at the float bowl which explains why that was leaking profusely.

My only slight concern is that both the high speed needles in both of the carbs I have are ever so slightly bent at the sharp end. I was able to seat it and turn it out 3 turns so we will see what happens.

CC1450 · #59 04-19-2011, 09:15 PM

forgot to mention I also put the carb's float in a pan of water for a while to make sure it did not sink or fill up with water. It checked out good.

westofb · #60 04-20-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1450

I also have started to think about steering. While the '78 has much less slop in the wheel, it takes a lot more effort than the '76 to turn. I was two handing it with a good deal of effort when I drove the '78. Looks like I will need to read more into that, I have seen other posts about it here and there. I also saw some sort of power steering add on but I will not be going that route.

At the top of the page where the sponsors are, click on the one for IH cub parts (bottom one). He sells a steering upgrade that replaces to 2 jamb nuts on the side of the steering box with a washer/ bearing/ nylon locking nut, they go for about $12.00 and supposed to improve steering effort quite a bit. I have one ordered myself, just haven't tried one personally.