How much will a Cub Cadet move?

[Whitegrass]

I have a Casita trailer
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3,000 weight on a 4% incline driveway. My question is can a Cub Cadet 149 move this trailer without wrecking the CC 149?

[Mike McKown]

I see no reason why it wouldn't move it just fine if the tractor is in reasonable condition.

[ol'George]

You are not going to wreck or damage a 149 in decent shape,
You will possibly run out of traction or not stop it after it gets moving.
Do not put yourself in a situation where the lack of braking or traction causes
an unsafe condition

[Mike McKown]

Originally Posted by ol'George

You are not going to wreck or damage a 149 in decent shape,
You will possibly run out of traction or not stop it after it gets moving.
Do not put yourself in a situation where the lack of braking or traction causes
an unsafe condition

Yes, pulling is not the problem. It's stopping.

[athomas]

Originally Posted by Mike McKown

Yes, pulling is not the problem. It's stopping.

I'm not sure what a 4% grade looks like but anything too steep will likely ruin the 149 and you also! A 500 lb tractor will have a hard time stopping a 3000lb load, just my opinion though!

[Jeff in Pa]

Originally Posted by Mike McKown

Yes, pulling is not the problem. It's stopping.

Stopping or steering will be the problem.

I moved my 18' I/O ( 2200 lbs ) with my 125 with loaded tires. Once I started on the very gentle downslope, it was hang on as I was no longer in control.

NEVER again

[Mike McKown]

When I was using the old tractors with the spirol pin in the driveshaft coupling I was always concerned with the pin shearing when on a steep grade or with a heavy load on a slight grade.

The disc brakes on the older ones wouldn't stop much and the internal brake was better but essentially you didn't have more than one wheel braking on uneven or rough surface due to the differential action.

[ironman]

Originally Posted by athomas

I'm not sure what a 4% grade looks like but anything too steep will likely ruin the 149 and you also! A 500 lb tractor will have a hard time stopping a 3000lb load, just my opinion though!

You can see from the red scale on this chart, 4% slope is not very much. I'd think even the hydro alone could stop it as long as there isn't a lot of momentum built up.

The question is, how sure is Whitegrass about the 4%? We need more pictures of his driveway.

[cooperino]

In airline use. The tractors we rebuild have DBP draw bar pull ratings. Its basically 10% of load with proper braking. So a 5000 DBP baggage tractor has a useful towing capacity of 50,000 pounds. A 110,000 DBP aircraft tractor will push/pull and stop a 1,100,000 pound aircraft such as a 747.

A 5000 DBP tractor typically weighs about 6500 pounds and a 110,000 DBP tractor weighs about 130,000 pounds.

The question is. Did cub cadet specify what the DBP rating is on a 149? Is it in a manual somewhere?

I have used my cubs to pull small trailers, boats, etc. Mind you I did this for a short distance on pretty level ground where the weight of the thing i was pulling stopped me.

[cooperino]

Originally Posted by ironman

You can see from the red scale on this chart, 4% slope is not very much. I'd think even the hydro alone could stop it as long as there isn't a lot of momentum built up.

The question is, how sure is Whitegrass about the 4%? We need more pictures of his driveway.

Your right. Looking at that scale would leave you to believe its not much. However, A 50 foot driveway that is 2 feet higher on one end than the other is a 4% grade. Enough to have something heavy help you propel down I think.

I would still like to see a DBP figure in print for our beloved cubs since this come up pretty often.

Another thought.. What is the tongue weight on that trailer. I bet its 300 plus pounds. Enough to help the steering start to get lite.