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Old 09-05-2019, 05:20 PM
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Default 782 IH series 1 or 2
How to tell or what to look for in a series 1 or 2 Kohler engine in a IH 782
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Old 09-05-2019, 05:34 PM
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An IH built 782 (S/N: <699,999) had a KT-17 Series I Engine in it from the Factory.

The Series II engine was not used until Chassis Serial 726125> which was built by CCC/MTD.

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Old 09-05-2019, 05:38 PM
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I had an early IH 682 with a series 1
It had a pipe plug instead of a cap for oil fill
It had a square air filter housing
However, the shortblock was replaced at sometime and all was placed on to the new series II. I didn't know until I noticed an oil filter provision on the side of the block.
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Old 09-05-2019, 05:50 PM
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What do you look for on the engine to tell .I have herd the series 2 have a oil filter
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:21 PM
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What do you look for on the engine to tell .I have herd the series 2 have a oil filter
This pic shows where the provision for an oil filter and oil pressure gauge/sensor would be on a series II.
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:30 PM
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oil pressure gauge/sensor would be on a series II.
WRONG. I have a Series II in my 784 and there is NO provision for an Oil Filter.
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This pic shows where the provision for an oil filter and oil pressure gauge/sensor would be on a series II.
Some series 2's didn't have an oil filter, or even a provision for one as Roland said.
Now in da picture yall' will see a threaded plug with an arrow pointing to it.
(Don't worry the injins' are friendly in these parts)

Now pay attention, I'm only going to say this for the 100th ++ time.
If it is a threaded plug or a pressure switch or anything else threaded in there, it is it a series 2 or magnum.
If it is a series 1, the bossed area will have a small driven in cup plug in that place and the area will be smaller as there is no need for a robust boss as nothing is threaded into it.
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The pipe plug for an oil fill, carburetors,air filters cooling tins, serial numbers etc are interchangeable between the engines so the presence or lack of those items don't mean shit.
A series 1 has no oil pressure spring/ball so it has about #5 on a good day
A series 2/magnum can run in excess of #80 cold.
I'll stop there as the internal differences are listed here many times by myself and others.
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:40 AM
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My IH 782 has a series II in it. It does not have an oil filter provision. It also has series I tins. The only way I knew for sure is OlGeorge said to use an oil pressure tester where the oil sensing using goes. I have a thread a few months ago with the same question and what all I did to ID it.
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