782 starter problems

Ewilliams · #1 11-05-2010, 07:47 AM

I have a IH 782 that I just finished putting the snowblower on. It's getting ready to snow here in WNY. Anyway, after I got the snowblower on I went to start it and it just clicked at the solenoid. I thought the battery died so I switched the battery. Still clicking. I located the starter and seen it didn't move except for a couple times it moved very slowly, not even enough to engage the flywheel. Anyway, I am guessing the starter needs to be replaced but it almost looks as though I have to raise or remove the engine to get it out. Any tricks to getting it out or suggestions? I just bought this over the summer and it has a lot of power and a nice quiet ride, but it is not fun working on compared to the narrow frames.

Thanks,
Earl

metalrain · #2 11-05-2010, 08:19 AM

Earl;

check and clean your connections, including ofcourse the ground to frame connection(s)....if that doesn't fix the problem, jump it across the solenoid to see if the starter kicks in.

metalrain

ol'George · #3 11-05-2010, 08:48 AM

If, after you perform the mentioned tests and you determine that the starter is @ fault, it can be removed without removing the engine.
I used a long extension /Universal joint coming in from the front to remove the 2 nuts on the starter after removing the air shrouds that are in the way. It’s not a 5 minute job, but can be done in frame.
Matt has a special bent box wrench he uses; there is a write up earlier on it.

Matt G. · #4 11-05-2010, 08:50 AM

You may want to do this:

http://cubfaq.com/kstarter.html

Ewilliams · #5 11-05-2010, 06:06 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. I printed the link for removing the starter with the modified box wrench. My friend had a S shaped snap-on 7/16 box wrench so I am going to try that first. I will test all the connections first, but I am pretty sure it is the starter. Thanks again

jbollis · #6 11-05-2010, 06:53 PM

I have 1 in one of my mag18s that does the same thing about every other year or so. I just spray the Bendix down with some good lubricating spray,let it sit a couple minutes, and it has always fixed it. So you may want to try that before removing the starter.

jmroy · #7 11-05-2010, 06:54 PM

The best test is to take a good pair of jumper cables, connect one end to your car/ truck, the other end connect the positive cable to the post on the starter and touch the negative jumper to the body of the starter. If the starter still performs the same it is the problem.

Matt G. · #8 11-05-2010, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbollis

I have 1 in one of my mag18s that does the same thing about every other year or so. I just spray the Bendix down with some good lubricating spray,let it sit a couple minutes, and it has always fixed it. So you may want to try that before removing the starter.

That's only a band-aid and isn't going to clean all the gunk out of the bendix drive. Cleaning it and then relubricating it (as well as the bushings inside, cleaning the commutator, and checking on the condition of the brushes) should keep you from having to touch it for quite a few years.

jbollis · #9 11-05-2010, 08:50 PM

I did not say it was the best way to fix it. But it has worked for several years for me. I will keep doing it till it doesn't. I figure when it quits I will pull it and have the whole starter rebuilt, cost about $65 at the local Amish starter and generator rebuilder. I can't do it myself (parts + time) or guarantee it for 3 years for that price