PTO purpose? - Page 3

RedHawCadet · #21 07-20-2016, 11:42 AM

Here is a video of a 70 grinding corn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6eBkbZXIg8

J-Mech · #22 07-20-2016, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeB

Am I glad I found this post. I have a 129 with the hydro drive. The 129 does not offer the rear PTO, but I am in the same boat that I would like to power attachements with the read PTO, such as a small rotary mower. .................

I plan on replacing my current rear end with a 1650 read end - as this has the rear PTO, but was told the same thing. The reverse. I have been wracking my brain all week on how to get one that will work or find a skilled fabricator that would tackle this. I know its not gonna be cheap, but I love tinkering with these little tractors. Very handy.

We told you in the other thread, swapping rear ends is a waste of time. A 1650 rear end is EXACTLY the same as the rear in your129. No different at all. You cannot put a rear PTO on a GT (garden tractor) that is hydro drive. Can't. You can on a gear drive, but that's it.

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Originally Posted by MikeB

The 129 I picked up this year is in extremely good shape, with a fresh 14 hp Koehler. I like the engine, but of course, at least for me, I want more HP! I just put a down payment on a 23 hp Briggs and Stratton Vanguard. That should give it some snort. These little tractors are neat and NO flimsy fiberglass to be found.

You will have to kill the tractor to put a Vanguard twin in it. You will have to hack the frame all up. There is no need as a 14HP single will perform just as well. You won't need any more horses.

You just need to go use your 129 as is, then you will understand. But.... you can't put a rear PTO on it.

J-Mech · #23 07-20-2016, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vr4Legacy

If I understand how they work correctly (and I may not) you bolt the PTO onto the rear differential cover and it runs off the gears on the rear differential.

No. You don't. The rear PTO on a gear drive sticks out the back of the rear housing, but runs off of the top shaft in the trans. The PTO on the rear of a SGT (hydro) runs off of the output shaft on the back of the hydro, and simply bolts on the rear cover.

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Originally Posted by vr4Legacy

However, there is a shaft on the rear of the hydro pump, and perhaps it could be adapted to run a rear PTO. Anything is possible with a welder and some skills

All hydro's have that shaft. Issue is, the shaft is not splined for the coupling for a rear PTO, and the battery box is too low on a GT to get the parts under it. So..... that is why they are all on a SGT. Oh, I'm sure you could hack it all up and get one on it, but it's going to take more than a hydro pump off a 1650 (which won't work with a rear PTO anyway) and slapping it in there, doing some "custom crap" and going about your day.....

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Originally Posted by vr4Legacy

Or, since it appears you're willing to spend some money on it, find a gear driven tractor and go from there.

If you really, really really want a rear PTO, this is your best option.

BUT, remember, your going to have to build your own attachments.

darkminion_17 · #24 07-20-2016, 01:28 PM

You bet bet is to get a tiller gearbox that mounts to the rear end.

Terry C · #25 07-20-2016, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17

You bet bet is to get a tiller gearbox that mounts to the rear end.

That's the correct answer!

Yosemite Sam · #26 07-20-2016, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17

You bet bet is to get a tiller gearbox that mounts to the rear end.

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Originally Posted by Terry C

That's the correct answer!

I don't disagree with this logic, but what's he gonna run with it other than a tiller once he gets it on there?

darkminion_17 · #27 07-20-2016, 05:26 PM

Maybe he can mount this to the back...

Alvy · #28 07-20-2016, 05:56 PM

Trying to remember. Wasn't there a member here who fabbed up a gear pump to run off the output shaft of the hydro? Not sure if it was to add maybe power steering or hydraulic powered attachments on a narrow frame? It's been a while.

Terry C · #29 07-20-2016, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam

I don't disagree with this logic, but what's he gonna run with it other than a tiller once he gets it on there?

I can't answer that but if someone is determined to drive something in the rear, that's the easiest way.

J-Mech · #30 07-20-2016, 06:45 PM

Dale, (Merk) has a tiller gearbox mounted on the rear of a tractor turned so the output shaft faces the rear. He drives a sickle mower with it. Actually, he may drive a finish mower with it too..... I'll dig around and see if I can find his pic.