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Old 05-11-2016, 09:18 PM
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Isn't the two piece cam with automatic timing advance set at TDC instead of 20 before? That could possibly explain it trying to spark too far in advance.
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The serial number on mine is 101344. Maybe I'll play around with the timing before I do anything else.
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Found some good info on one of Brian millers sites and it states to set timing at TDC on the early two piece cam. It then advances to 20 degrees once started.
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The early 100s had a 2 piece cam that help spin the engine. My 100 would only spin the engine a half a turn before the belt would slip or the starter would quit.
Dale I had forgotten all about that. I have not seen it myself, but I was aware of the two piece cam with the timing advance. I think it was you who brought it up before. Nice catch.


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Found some good info on one of Brian millers sites and it states to set timing at TDC on the early two piece cam. It then advances to 20 degrees once started.
Now you done it. That name isn't very popular here...... I suggest you ask questions here, and get info here.. Unfortunately his site is the first to pop up in nearly any Kohler engine search. He must have made friends with a hacker during one of his runs in prison, for his site to have that many hits in a search.
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Didn't know of mr millers reputation, just was not finding much info on web about this situation and was finally happy to see some info on it. Anywho, you guys have always steered me straight, I'd be lost without this site, thanks!

Set timing at TDC and really didn't make much difference, got it to start but it still took awhile. Also tried booster on the battery for a little extra but no difference. Thinking about finding a one piece cam with acr and swap them out, probably pull head and de carbon, check everything in there and put on new gasket since I've never had this one off yet.
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With something like that, even if it exist, I would imagine it being possible that you're trying to start the motor with spark too far advanced. Perhaps there's a different procedure in setting the static timing with a cam designed for spark advance.
Static timing is the best way (only way in my book) to set the points. This will get the engine running. To fine an engine I will use either a timing light or by sound. I have has a few that the hole and the S and SP mark doesn't line up right or the operator is not looking squarely at the mark.

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Dale I had forgotten all about that. I have not seen it myself, but I was aware of the two piece cam with the timing advance. I think it was you who brought it up before. Nice catch.
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Didn't know of mr millers reputation, just was not finding much info on web about this situation and was finally happy to see some info on it. Anywho, you guys have always steered me straight, I'd be lost without this site, thanks!

Set timing at TDC and really didn't make much difference, got it to start but it still took awhile. Also tried booster on the battery for a little extra but no difference. Thinking about finding a one piece cam with acr and swap them out, probably pull head and de carbon, check everything in there and put on new gasket since I've never had this one off yet.
According to some posters in a thread at this Wheel Horse site there is a difference in the valve tappets so you may need more than just the cam.

http://www.wheelhorseforum.com/topic...181-camshafts/
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