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Old 06-23-2014, 04:31 AM
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Default New Tractor.. 1961 Original!

Just picked up this very early original. Its been hacked at i can tell... Came with a freely moving deck and a plow that needs completely rewelded and needs a new cutting blade. Its got non original fenders and has a k141 instead of a k161. It has spark and had no compression when i got it but it was just a stuck valve. So it should have its compression back. It is serial number 841. Tell me some info if any of you can like about the engine and fenders.. Thanks

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Old 06-23-2014, 06:27 AM
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Congrats on the early O!
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:34 AM
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Congrats on the original.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:49 AM
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congrats on the super early O! awesome find. to my knowledge they never came with a k141. I would just find a k161 to put in it.
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:51 PM
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Very early 3 digit wow. Great score. Does it still have early collared spindles, early seat with no drain, etc?
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:17 PM
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I'm pretty sure on this.... Hopefully Lew can back this up.... A 141 is an early 161. I don't know if they ever built them at the same time.

I do know this for sure:
There was a bore change during the life of the 7hp motor. They went to a larger bore. Everything else stayed the same. The old motor can be bored out to the new bore size with no problems. And it's a lot different, so no matter how bad the block is it should clean up. The pistons/rings and cylinder parts aren't available for the 141 anymore anyway, so a rebore is all you can do.

Fenders look homemade/modified. Is it an electric start?

Congrats on the very.... VERY early "O"!!

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Old 06-23-2014, 03:23 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. I'll get more pics in a little bit
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:19 PM
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A 141 is an early 7 hp engine, it had a 2.785" bore and a 2.50" stroke as opposed to the later 161's that had a 2.938" bore and a 2.50" stroke.

If I am not mistaken there are no pistons and rings available to rebuild a 141, however the good news is that the block can be bored for a 161 piston and those parts ARE still available.

I personally do not know when they changed from the 141 to the 161 so I can't answer about if this engine could be original to the tractor, but I'm guessing it was.

Nice find!
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:27 PM
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Great find on the early O
As mentioned earlier,
Make the best of each day ,

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Old 06-23-2014, 06:47 PM
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Nice find on the 3 digit.
As far as I know they all were k161 7 hp.
That was in the sales literature.
In the book I have a k141 is 6 1/4 hp. maybe had a smaller carb on it.
we have a few here...
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