1450 overhaul - now wont Start

[Sam Mac]

Bare spot on the ground wire is not a problem, the needle for the carb on the other hand could be. Wouldn’t hurt to clean all the electrical connections also.

[Methos]

You should be able to fix that needle. If your using the same grounding location it should be fine but it doesn't hurt to ensure your getting good ground. BTDT

[mickb72]

Hi, you might want to change the condencer. I had one that would only idle,tried a lot off things first then changed the condencer and that fixed it. Mike

[Matt G.]

Originally Posted by teejk

I don't think a .01 or two or three on the point setting is going to be critical in keeping it running (may run "ugly" but it will run)

0.010" off, and the engine will probably not even start.

Daddysignman, verify that the timing is correct before you go any further screwing around with the carb, or you may drive yourself insane. Based on what you posted earlier it's very likely the timing is off.

[teejk]

Originally Posted by Matt G.

0.010" off, and the engine will probably not even start.

Daddysignman, verify that the timing is correct before you go any further screwing around with the carb, or you may drive yourself insane. Based on what you posted earlier it's very likely the timing is off.

sorry...I meant .001, not .01 (i.e. .02 vs. .019 should not matter in getting it running).

[jbrewer]

There's a whole lot of variables at play here now. Next time it would be good not to fix things until you know what's broken.

When it cranks again, determine if you have spark.

Determine if its getting gas.

THEN if it's needed it'll be good to mess with the timing

With everything changing it gets MUCH more complicated to diagnose.
...but don't worry, It'll start again....

John

[teejk]

Originally Posted by jbrewer

There's a whole lot of variables at play here now. Next time it would be good not to fix things until you know what's broken.

When it cranks again, determine if you have spark.

Determine if its getting gas.

THEN if it's needed it'll be good to mess with the timing

With everything changing it gets MUCH more complicated to diagnose.
...but don't worry, It'll start again....

John

you are 110% correct...how many of us have spent $$$ chasing ghosts only to find out the fix was a dollar or two (e.g. I have a box with coils, condensors, point sets, etc.) that I bought trying to get something running.

the fact that he has cleaned up the starter, I'd hit it on the bench with a batt charger to make sure it spins freely. then without power, I'd make sure the worm drive starter gear moves in and out freely. then re-mount the starter (make sure the ground contact behind the front bolt is shiny).

I think I would then move to the points and make sure they are close to spec (I think .020 at it's max is what Kohler says).

The fact that he could get it to start and idle still points me to the carb (that main jet needle looks like somebody seated it too far...those things are fragile).

[Daddysignman]

Well after a long fight my 1450 is put back together and running good. I had my buddy tell me my carb was shot and I needed a new one. He said the throttle shaft was shot! So I went to Ace and got the brass thrust bearing and two new screws and schooled this 30 year veteran of tractor repair. He owns the largest John Deere dealership in CT!

He was amazed that fixed it!

So I brought it home and put her back together.



I machined a couple of polyphenelic plastic skid plates for the snow thrower so I don't scratch my new driveway.

I power washed and painted the QA42A the other night and threw it on. I tried using the belt off the 582 but it doesn't fit. Anybody know which size belt I need off the top of their head?

Here's a few more shots. Tomorrow I will make the new graphics and get them installed!

[cubfixer]

Congratulations on the carb work! Buy your buddy a beer! lol!

Thanks for sharing your pain! Nice looking cub!

[Methos]

That's awesome news!