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Old 02-19-2012, 12:37 PM
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Hello fellow 1650 owner. I too had the same problem with slow cranking on my 1650. I tried other batterys out of other tractors with same results. Here is what I found out. O'rilleys sells a higer cranking amp battery for lawn tractor/mowers that are not on the shelf. You have to know someone there to know they sell them. Ask the sales guy/gal if they have a higer cranking amps battery in back. I happened to have a friend at my local store that is a Cub Cadet guy and told me about the higher amp battery. So I bought one. They are a couple dollars more, like $5 maybe, and are (at my store) on sale for somewhere in the $30 range right now. Got a new one, popped it in the 1650 and "VROOOOM" fired up better than any new battery I have ever put in a lawn tractor. In my opinion the starter and compression on a 1650 may be a little more needy than your normal lawn tractor battery can handle. This fixed my problem for now. I hope it fixes my problem long into the future also as I have always had slow cranking or even no starting on my 1650 sence I bought it.
Give it a try and let me know if it works for you and anyone else reading this let me know if this idea of the starter and motor just needing a few more amps to really get cranking. I even was to the point of trying to mount a automotive battery to this thing because like I said it always cranked really slow and didnt want to fire up.
Take care and good luck
John
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Old 02-19-2012, 01:21 PM
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There should be a part # on your battery you got that we could check on at our parts stores.
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Old 02-19-2012, 08:54 PM
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John,
I got mine squared away. It was my starter. I had a spare and both were shot. One had broken magnets and the other had worn brushes. I took the two and made one. It cranks properly now. I was looking everywhere else because I couldn't see me having two bad starters. If higher CCA helps yours, I would start to suspect a poor connection. Putting a car battery on mine did seem to help but it still wasn't cranking right. I would suspect your timing is correct but worth checking. Your compression release is another likely cause. I really don't think the battery is your issue if it cranks others engines, even a 10 hp. There's 4 brushes in the starter. I was working with two. Now all 4 are good and my cheap Advance Auto (375 CCA battery if I recall correctly) battery even with a poor charge does well.
Start a thread. It will be running properly with everyones advice. If you have the ability, open the starter and check the magnets and brushes. It's not as daunting as I thought.
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