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Old 06-13-2015, 04:02 PM
Wildbuckwheat Wildbuckwheat is offline
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Default I filled my gear transmission with Hy-Gard instead of HyTran -- little rant

I searched about what kind of oil to put in the gear transmission of my 108 and the entire internets demands that I use HyTran, mostly for the added moisture retention capabilities.

This farm runs Deeres and I do not use HyTran in anything. I use Hy-Gard in everything. Its what Deere calls for in all its tractors and it is not compatible with HyTran (what CaseIH/CNH calls for in their tractors).

So I put Hy-Gard in my cub cadet rear end. I stock it in 55 gallon drums. I thought about putting in GL5, but Hy-Gard is cheaper.


Here is why I don't understand why the entire internet demands that I use HyTran:

Its just a gearbox we are putting oil into. I have probably a hundred gearboxes on this farm that require oil. They all require either 90w oil, some variant of 90w oil (85w140, etc), Hy-Gard, or grease. Usually if it requires oil either 15w40 (the most common on farm engine oil), some kind of 90w, or any kind of hydraulic oil is acceptable.

Gearboxes generally aren't picky about what kind of oil goes into them. Planetary hubs and things with synchro's (GL5 + brass syncros is a bad time) are somewhat picky, but plain gears and diffs aren't that picky.

So why is the internets so focused on HyTran? Because of the added moisture retention capability compared to any other hydraulic oil? All my other gearboxes and tractor rear ends are exposed to the same environment my cub is, and they don't have a problem. And those tractor rear ends also function as the sump for 3000 psi hydraulic systems.


I'm 100% sure the reason the manual calls for HyTran instead of any generic hydraulic oil is because HyTran has always been a CaseIH/CNH product. And I'm 100% sure its fine to use any gear oil, hydraulic oil, or even 15w40 that you want. I would have put in the cheapest generic hydraulic oil from TSC if I was going into town that day.

If my rear end blows up I'll post here.
 


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