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01-22-2013, 09:53 AM
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123 hydro problem
went to use my 123 last night and when i went to drive it out of the shed it wouldnt move ether direction after it ran for about 5 min it started to move a little and after it ran a little longer i was able but it took a while to have full power i checked the fluid today it it was just below the fill hole i could easily touch it with my pinky finger it it just because it is so cold out or what i never have a problem with my 127 hydro drive
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01-22-2013, 10:04 AM
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When was the last time you changed the fluid and the filter on your hydro? If it is old and has accumulated enough water from condensation there is a good chance that you have ice in the filter and that would stop the flow of oil to the pump on your hydro.
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01-22-2013, 12:51 PM
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Hy tran has the ability to mix a small % water with oil, thus the problem in cold temps.
You have a milkey emulsion of water/oil trying to circulate. Most other hydraulic oils keep water/oil seperate, but when the moisture/water level reaches the suction inlet it will stop flow if below the freezing point in any system/with any oil. Best to warm it up as good as you can and change oil/filter, as mentioned previously. FWIW: Bare in mind when a paper filter, gets water in it, it swells and the bypass operates,rendering it useless,as a filter.
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01-22-2013, 02:23 PM
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ok i got this tractor second hand and from the looks of the filter its been a wile seance it has been changed so when i get a new gasket for the rear ill change it out i have a brand new filter i got back last summer i was going to do a oil change on my 127 had a gasket too but i think it got thrown away sense it was in cardboard
 any suggestions on what to use
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01-22-2013, 02:50 PM
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If you don't have a gasket you can get some gasket paper at an auto parts store and cut your own. I like Case IH Hy-Tran as far as the oil goes. I used to use NAPA 1410 filters but lately the Cub filters are a bit less $$$ so I am now buying the filters at the Cub dealer. A new filter and some oil is a lot cheaper than a pump.
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01-22-2013, 03:50 PM
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01-22-2013, 05:22 PM
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If anyone would like to see, I can cut one in 1/2 and take a pix, but not tonight,as it is *4 out in the shop and my air operated die grinder cutoff wheel ices up @ that temp.  ( and so do I) Ha,LOL!
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01-22-2013, 07:07 PM
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Yes they do. I have cut them open. I always cut filters to look for signs of problems. This pic does not show the spring but trust me it had one. Anyway you can see the inside of a Cub and a NAPA filter.
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