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hondadreamca77 06-29-2014 06:00 PM

Manual PTO Repair
 
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Recently I asked for advice to remove stuck/stripped set screws on a manual PTO. I quickly found out what a little beast of a job this is to do as in my case the set screws were all rounded out and no allen wrench would work. The clutch hub was broken on the back side (pics below) and the fiber disc was broken as well. Nothing to do but overhaul to like new service level. Here is my progress and suggestions for those who will need to do this in the future. Total time 4 hours.


1) You will waste your time without good drill bits to drill the old PTO set screws out. I found these Cobalt Irwin's to be excellent and only $1.75 ea at Auto Value Supply. They ate the metal like butta.

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2) Next pic is carefully drilling out the old screw. Plenty of oil and slow and precise drilling. 3/16 and then 11/64". SLOW/STEADY.

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3) Offending clutch hub is shown showing broken metal on backside of hub where PO over tightened or time destroyed it. Definitely loose but fortunately I have a spare clutch hub to use for this job.

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4) Next is broken disc compared to new thicker disc ($31)

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5) Then re tapped holes 1/4" 20 to clean threads.

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6) Cleaned and repacked the rider bearing with Lucas HD green grease.

7) Reassembly with new set screws (permatexed) and place back in basket.

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8) Per manual adjusted PTO lever gap to distance of matchbook cover.

When I hooked up the mower and ran her she worked flawless. I had totally service the 48" deck beforehand and this was probably the first light of day this baby had seen in over 20 years. No thrown belts...just a smooth cut and working clutch.

Jeff in Pa 06-29-2014 06:12 PM

Good to hear it went somewhat smoothly. :beerchug:

Purchase a real tap wrench ( even a $3 harbor freight one). You put more side pressure on the tap than you realize using pliers or vise grips to turn the tap. I know you were just cleaning threads but it doesn't take much to break a tap.

darkminion_17 06-29-2014 08:57 PM

what he said.:beerchug:

ACecil 06-29-2014 09:55 PM

Glad you got it working!

hondadreamca77 06-30-2014 02:58 PM

Thanks
 
Have a T handle for taps.....past 35 years, lot's of usage....airplane, boats, motorcycle restores....etc.

Also have same vice grip for 35 years......

For just cleaning out a thread? Really.

:American Flag 1:

Maxwelhse 06-30-2014 04:29 PM

Good pics and write up. I personally wouldn't have worried about the tap handle for clean up if the tap started smoothly and probably would have used a socket and ratchet.. I guess we're both wrong... :Nope:

FWIW, real cutting oil (not WD-40) makes a HUGE difference too. I use Tap Magic.

Jeff in Pa 06-30-2014 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hondadreamca77 (Post 270742)
Have a T handle for taps.....past 35 years, lot's of usage....airplane, boats, motorcycle restores....etc.

Also have same vice grip for 35 years......

For just cleaning out a thread? Really.

:American Flag 1:

As a machinist for well over 3 decades, I always try to use the correct tools. When offering suggestions, I always try to offer the safest ( less chance of tool breakage) way to work.

It sounds like you have some experience behind you, I couldn't tell that in that post. :beerchug:

drglinski 06-30-2014 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff in Pa (Post 270789)
As a machinist for well over 3 decades, I always try to use the correct tools. When offering suggestions, I always try to offer the safest ( less chance of tool breakage) way to work.

It sounds like you have some experience behind you, I couldn't tell that in that post. :beerchug:

I agree. I don't like guys that get crappy tools and/or the wrong ones for the job.


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