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Luke Shook 03-04-2011 11:08 AM

cub 127 options
 
I am rebuilding a Cub Cadet 127. I have wheel weights, plow, deck, and trailer. I am researching to see what things I can add durring the rebuild. I've seen a loader on eBay, but that would be too expensive. Where rear PTO's and three point hitches available on this model? What other things should I consider and look for? I plan to sell my 1720 for cash to buy parts and accessories for my 127. I found someone who has a larger deck, three point hitch and snowblower that he'll sell as a lot.

I want to build the 127 with a lot of neat options. I don't plan to sell it.

Methos 03-04-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke Shook (Post 60994)
I am rebuilding a Cub Cadet 127. I have wheel weights, plow, deck, and trailer. I am researching to see what things I can add durring the rebuild. I've seen a loader on eBay, but that would be too expensive. Where rear PTO's and three point hitches available on this model? What other things should I consider and look for? I plan to sell my 1720 for cash to buy parts and accessories for my 127. I found someone who has a larger deck, three point hitch and snowblower that he'll sell as a lot.

I want to build the 127 with a lot of neat options. I don't plan to sell it.

Start looking for a cigarette lighter and a hydro lift. Do you have headlights for it yet?

Look here for more idea's
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/f...splay.php?f=14

red56turbo 03-04-2011 12:22 PM

Luke,
You could look for a rear tiller and rear lift. The lift is really a one point, not a three point. Can't put a rear PTO on a hydro. There is also a front blade that's IH made and tons of brinly rear attachments, planter, cultivators, etc. IH did make a backblade also. Got any pics of your 127??:beerchug:

Luke Shook 03-04-2011 12:59 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. My 127 has headlights and taillights already. I don't have a cigaret lighter yet. What is a hydro lift? A rear tiller sounds cool. Can someone post a picture of a rear lift and the hydro lift on a 127? I knew about IH making accesories. Thanks for the tip on Brinly. I know that my tractor was one of the last narrow frame Cubs. Are there any interchangeable parts I should look for in other model Cubs? I have a good running 1720 Hydro I plan to sell, and I think my dad has an old 1610 behind his garage he plans to fix and sell.

ihnick 03-04-2011 01:28 PM

Duke. Are the cig lighters rare at all? My 129 and 169 has one

red56turbo 03-04-2011 02:31 PM

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Luke,
Here's a pic of a narrow frame rear lift on the back of a 72 I used to have. There is a pin that goes in the end of the lift where Brinly attachments or Cub attachments hook. There also is a U-Shaped bracket that bolts behind the triangle tow bracket. On the 1X6/1X7 series, you'll also need the bracket that holds the top cast piece. Used to have a pic of the bracket, but can't find it :BangPC:. Someone else probably has a pic on the back of their 127 and will show ya one on the tractor.

Methos 03-04-2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ihnick (Post 61014)
Duke. Are the cig lighters rare at all? My 129 and 169 has one

From what I've seen yes they are. I have the part that does the heating part and just have to order a element that gets heated. My current one is from a wheel horse and they are diffrent then the cub version. I'll do some checking to find a older posting that talks about them in a little bit. Great score that you have two of them! I don't even smoke and want one.

westofb 03-04-2011 04:11 PM

I have one!
 
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Originally Posted by Methos (Post 61021)
From what I've seen yes they are. I have the part that does the heating part and just have to order a element that gets heated. My current one is from a wheel horse and they are diffrent then the cub version. I'll do some checking to find a older posting that talks about them in a little bit. Great score that you have two of them! I don't even smoke and want one.

I have one on my 149, gladly trade it for a rear tiller!

Luke Shook 03-04-2011 04:13 PM

pics
 
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cub 127

chains, trailer, weights, plow

Luke Shook 03-04-2011 04:22 PM

a rear tiller
 
Will a rear tiller work on a 127? Does it require a PTO?

red56turbo 03-04-2011 05:08 PM

Luke,
Nice 127, trailer, and front blade!!:beerchug:. The rear tiller uses a loooooong belt that runs from the front PTO to an angle gear box that bolts to the back of your 127. If you find a tiller, make sure the gearbox is with it. They can be found separately, but get pricey. Heck, an OEM belt, which I recommend one to buy, runs $75 last one I bought. The aftermarket belts just don't last probably due to all the twists and turns. I don't have any current pics of my #2 tiller, but could snap some if you're interested. :biggrin2:

BTW, I see a set of weights hidin' under that trailer!

Methos 03-04-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by westofb (Post 61030)
I have one on my 149, gladly trade it for a rear tiller!

I'll pass on that one a little to rich for my blood and I love my tiller to much!

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Originally Posted by Luke Shook (Post 61031)
cub 127

chains, trailer, weights, plow

Nice pics!

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Originally Posted by Luke Shook (Post 61032)
Will a rear tiller work on a 127? Does it require a PTO?

Nope

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Originally Posted by red56turbo (Post 61037)
Luke,
Nice 127, trailer, and front blade!!:beerchug:. The rear tiller uses a loooooong belt that runs from the front PTO to an angle gear box that bolts to the back of your 127. If you find a tiller, make sure the gearbox is with it. They can be found separately, but get pricey. Heck, an OEM belt, which I recommend one to buy, runs $75 last one I bought. The aftermarket belts just don't last probably due to all the twists and turns. I don't have any current pics of my #2 tiller, but could snap some if you're interested. :biggrin2:

BTW, I see a set of weights hidin' under that trailer!

Well said!

Luke Shook 03-04-2011 05:45 PM

tiller
 
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So would this work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

red56turbo 03-04-2011 06:27 PM

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Luke,
That is a #1 tiller with both extensions and yes it would work for your 127. I don't see a pic of the rear 90* angle gear box I mentioned before. You will need the gearbox for the tiller to work. A #1, #2, or #2b tiller would work. The latter (#2b) would need to have the pulley changed from 5/8 to 1/2, otherwise same as a #2. I think I will run out the the shed and try to snap a pic of the gearbox for ya before it gets too dark. BTW, I found the pic of the rear lift for a 1X6/1X7 series. The pic shows both the lower U-shaped bracket and the upper bracket that the cast hooks to.

gcbailey 03-04-2011 06:28 PM

I would go for attachments that you don't see everyday.... Tillers, blades are things everyone would like to have... Try to get a sickle bar, post hole digger, PTO generator..... attachments not necessarily made by IH, but affiliate companies...

d_day2613 03-04-2011 06:53 PM

That's a nice score on the ol' 127! I guess you got that as a package deal? Those old IH trailers are hard to find, or at least they are here in Kentucky. I found two on a Craigslist ad and they were rusted out basket cases. The fella was selling them both for $300 and would not budge a bit on the price.

red56turbo 03-04-2011 06:54 PM

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Luke,
Here are a pic of my #2 tiller and a pic of the gearbox on the back of my 149. As you can see, the tiller mounts to the gearbox by pins and cotter pins. The gearbox pic also shows the rear lift option, a little different on a wideframe, but same concept. As far as attachments, there are alot out there such as haban sickle mowers, gens, danuser post hole diggers. I think there is a ground saw attachment like a trencher also. A buddy in Tennessee has two of those. I'd love to find a sickle mower myself someday. Alot depends on location. Prices on the east coast seem to run higher on some things then in boring ole Iowa :biggrin2::beerchug:.

ACecil 03-04-2011 07:03 PM

Nice 127, and attachments, Luke! :beerchug:

Luke Shook 03-04-2011 08:40 PM

how I got the Cubs
 
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Ok, someone wanted to know if I got these as a package deal. I think you'll like this story. I own a Deere 2305 with loader, mower deck, etc. My grandmother was hired to clean out an abandoned house and property to ready it for sale. She asked me for help. In exchange for payment, it was agreed I could pick and choose items to keep from the yard and in the house. The deceased owner was a hoarder. She NEVER threw out anything. She also hid money and valuables all over the house (behind pictures, in bottles, etc). We found stock piled toilet paper, hundreds of bottles of pills, cleaned and empty food containers from diners, keys to who knows what. We even found a 66 Plymouth hidden under twenty years of junk in the garage. One could not walk through the house easily. Some rooms were completely blocked off. My point is she NEVER got rid of anything. This is important in my story.

Anyways, in the Spring, I brought my John Deere down to the property. It was a rather large property with an overgrown back yard, and woods on the back of the property. I used the loader to remove a 68' Chevy van that was completely covered and hidden in vines. It was so rusty, it went right to the scrap yard. To get back on point, I started to plow down and cut the back yard. While knocking down the tall overgrowth I saw the outline of a white trailer not 20 feet behind the house. I worked the loader towards it. I saw the letters IH, and got a little grin on my face. When I got closer to check it out, I discovered there was a shed about six feet away. In it was a Cub Cadet, IH plow, wheel weights and chain. I wasted no time clearing a path so I could pull it all out. I went home and got a car trailer. My dad and I loaded it all up and brought it home. My Dad had the Cub running in no time. After a good cleaning, and nest removal, it looked near new. I was very disappointed however, to discover the plow and equipment didn't fit the tractor. I did some research and discovered this Cub Cadet is a 1720 with a "wide" chassis, while the parts are for an older "narrow" Cub Cadet. I put the accessories on a pallet behind Dad's garage, and forgot about them. We spent the rest of the year cleaning and scrapping stuff from the property. The house went under contract for sale in February. We had finished everything but a third of the basement. It was just too hard, and kept flooding. I was standing in the snow covered back yard waiting for the pump to finish draining the basement. I gazed through the now, foliage clear backyard. That's when I saw the outline of another shed, about a hundred feet behind the house. I didn't see it all year. I walked through the deep snow towards the dilapidated old shed. In it was the 1970, 127 Cub Cadet. I know it's a 1970 because of the Cub accessory book I found in the house. I should have known they wouldn't get rid of it. I quickly drove home and got my Deere. It was the end of the day, but I didn't have much time left to remove stuff from the property. I drove behind the house and promptly sank in the snow covered mud from the basement. I guess I didn't think that one through. By the time I got out of the mud, it was too dark to go any further. I went back the next Saturday morning and brought it up front with the loader. We took it home. Unfortunately rodents had destroyed the wiring harness, so I have not got it running yet.

Luke

Cub Cadet 123 03-04-2011 09:22 PM

An electric lift would also be great on a 127 and it might be less expensive than a hydraulic lift. :bigthink: A wood splitter on the rear axle would be interesting. I saw one in a brochure, but not in real life. You could also find a front end chipper shredder or generator.....those are kind of rare, the latter more than the former, and both would be eye candy to any cub enthusiast!! Great deal on that 127.....with nice perks!!

Cub Cadet 123

Methos 03-04-2011 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke Shook (Post 61089)
Ok, someone wanted to know if I got these as a package deal. I think you'll like this story. I own a Deere 2305 with loader, mower deck, etc. My grandmother was hired to clean out an abandoned house and property to ready it for sale. She asked me for help. In exchange for payment, it was agreed I could pick and choose items to keep from the yard and in the house. The deceased owner was a hoarder. She NEVER threw out anything. She also hid money and valuables all over the house (behind pictures, in bottles, etc). We found stock piled toilet paper, hundreds of bottles of pills, cleaned and empty food containers from diners, keys to who knows what. We even found a 66 Plymouth hidden under twenty years of junk in the garage. One could not walk through the house easily. Some rooms were completely blocked off. My point is she NEVER got rid of anything. This is important in my story.

Anyways, in the Spring, I brought my John Deere down to the property. It was a rather large property with an overgrown back yard, and woods on the back of the property. I used the loader to remove a 68' Chevy van that was completely covered and hidden in vines. It was so rusty, it went right to the scrap yard. To get back on point, I started to plow down and cut the back yard. While knocking down the tall overgrowth I saw the outline of a white trailer not 20 feet behind the house. I worked the loader towards it. I saw the letters IH, and got a little grin on my face. When I got closer to check it out, I discovered there was a shed about six feet away. In it was a Cub Cadet, IH plow, wheel weights and chain. I wasted no time clearing a path so I could pull it all out. I went home and got a car trailer. My dad and I loaded it all up and brought it home. My Dad had the Cub running in no time. After a good cleaning, and nest removal, it looked near new. I was very disappointed however, to discover the plow and equipment didn't fit the tractor. I did some research and discovered this Cub Cadet is a 1720 with a "wide" chassis, while the parts are for an older "narrow" Cub Cadet. I put the accessories on a pallet behind Dad's garage, and forgot about them. We spent the rest of the year cleaning and scrapping stuff from the property. The house went under contract for sale in February. We had finished everything but a third of the basement. It was just too hard, and kept flooding. I was standing in the snow covered back yard waiting for the pump to finish draining the basement. I gazed through the now, foliage clear backyard. That's when I saw the outline of another shed, about a hundred feet behind the house. I didn't see it all year. I walked through the deep snow towards the dilapidated old shed. In it was the 1970, 127 Cub Cadet. I know it's a 1970 because of the Cub accessory book I found in the house. I should have known they wouldn't get rid of it. I quickly drove home and got my Deere. It was the end of the day, but I didn't have much time left to remove stuff from the property. I drove behind the house and promptly sank in the snow covered mud from the basement. I guess I didn't think that one through. By the time I got out of the mud, it was too dark to go any further. I went back the next Saturday morning and brought it up front with the loader. We took it home. Unfortunately rodents had destroyed the wiring harness, so I have not got it running yet.

Luke

Luke that's freaking awesome! So how much cash did you all find?

ACecil 03-04-2011 11:06 PM

I really enjoyed your story, on how you got your cubs, Luke! :beerchug:

Methos 03-05-2011 12:18 AM

Check this out for the cig lighter.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3826

sfaulkner 03-05-2011 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke Shook (Post 61089)
Ok, someone wanted to know if I got these as a package deal. I think you'll like this story. I own a Deere 2305 with loader, mower deck, etc. My grandmother was hired to clean out an abandoned house and property to ready it for sale. She asked me for help. In exchange for payment, it was agreed I could pick and choose items to keep from the yard and in the house. The deceased owner was a hoarder. She NEVER threw out anything. She also hid money and valuables all over the house (behind pictures, in bottles, etc). We found stock piled toilet paper, hundreds of bottles of pills, cleaned and empty food containers from diners, keys to who knows what. We even found a 66 Plymouth hidden under twenty years of junk in the garage. One could not walk through the house easily. Some rooms were completely blocked off. My point is she NEVER got rid of anything. This is important in my story.

Anyways, in the Spring, I brought my John Deere down to the property. It was a rather large property with an overgrown back yard, and woods on the back of the property. I used the loader to remove a 68' Chevy van that was completely covered and hidden in vines. It was so rusty, it went right to the scrap yard. To get back on point, I started to plow down and cut the back yard. While knocking down the tall overgrowth I saw the outline of a white trailer not 20 feet behind the house. I worked the loader towards it. I saw the letters IH, and got a little grin on my face. When I got closer to check it out, I discovered there was a shed about six feet away. In it was a Cub Cadet, IH plow, wheel weights and chain. I wasted no time clearing a path so I could pull it all out. I went home and got a car trailer. My dad and I loaded it all up and brought it home. My Dad had the Cub running in no time. After a good cleaning, and nest removal, it looked near new. I was very disappointed however, to discover the plow and equipment didn't fit the tractor. I did some research and discovered this Cub Cadet is a 1720 with a "wide" chassis, while the parts are for an older "narrow" Cub Cadet. I put the accessories on a pallet behind Dad's garage, and forgot about them. We spent the rest of the year cleaning and scrapping stuff from the property. The house went under contract for sale in February. We had finished everything but a third of the basement. It was just too hard, and kept flooding. I was standing in the snow covered back yard waiting for the pump to finish draining the basement. I gazed through the now, foliage clear backyard. That's when I saw the outline of another shed, about a hundred feet behind the house. I didn't see it all year. I walked through the deep snow towards the dilapidated old shed. In it was the 1970, 127 Cub Cadet. I know it's a 1970 because of the Cub accessory book I found in the house. I should have known they wouldn't get rid of it. I quickly drove home and got my Deere. It was the end of the day, but I didn't have much time left to remove stuff from the property. I drove behind the house and promptly sank in the snow covered mud from the basement. I guess I didn't think that one through. By the time I got out of the mud, it was too dark to go any further. I went back the next Saturday morning and brought it up front with the loader. We took it home. Unfortunately rodents had destroyed the wiring harness, so I have not got it running yet.

Luke

Great story Luke!! Kinda like the American Picker......but better.

Luke Shook 03-05-2011 08:23 AM

cig lighter
 
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From what I can see, there is only one spot for the lighter, that's the location of the optional lift control. The option was lighter, lift, or nothing. The cigarette lighter was a $4.50 option for the 127 (without elec. lift) in 1970. The electric lift was a $137.16 option for the 127, without the lighter.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:X:RTQ:US:1123

Luke Shook 03-05-2011 08:35 AM

performance
 
So what things can I do to improve performance, while I'm building the 127? (ie: exhaust, carb, filters, etc)

Luke Shook 03-05-2011 08:43 AM

3pt hitch for 127
 
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http://ccspecialties.org/3points_sleevehitches.html

" IH Cub Cadet Category 0 COMPLETE 3 Point Lift for NARROW FRAMES
Unlike other Cat.0 kits sold out of Wisconsin, no reworking is needed with this setup! BOLT & GO
A downloadable link will be included that gives step by step Instructions.
Fits 107, 127, 147 for sure.
May fit other narrow frames with some small modifications to the lift shaft."

Matt G. 03-05-2011 10:59 AM

I would not put a Cat-0 on a 127. The attachments are a bit oversized for a 127, and you would have a hard time lifting them with the manual lift.

The IH tiller can be used with an adapter package, but there aren't too many of those around. I have made one, but only because I had no other options for the 3-point hitch on the tractor. The older IH-style 3-point wouldn't work on that particular tractor.


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