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IHinIN 02-25-2011 09:49 PM

Subsoiler attachment
 
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I'm going to build a subsoiler for my 100. The other day, my friend and I got to talking gardens and he was saying how he wanted to be able to work his ground deeper and I got the idea of building a subsoiler. My plan is to make it with a single shank that will go about 12" deep. It will mount to my sleeve hitch adapter and use a cylinder to give it more travel since the 3-point doesn't have enough travel.

Methos 02-26-2011 12:08 AM

Adam looking forward to your progress. I'm sure like everything else you do this is going to be top notch.

nickvanorman 02-26-2011 12:44 AM

a Subsoiler is going to be a little much for a cub i would think. i mean, if your only going 12 inches that should be okay. depends on how deep your hardpan is. i know sometimes a 175hp 4wd John Deere tractor has trouble pulling a 3 shank subsoiler in the ground around here running about 15inches deep.


looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

cub123 02-26-2011 09:24 AM

I have a Subsoiler that i made for my sears and it had no issues pulling it at about 10-12 inches,i cant wait to see pictures of how yours comes out!:beerchug:

Diz Jr. 02-26-2011 12:51 PM

IHinIN
Not trying to talk you out of building your own but i thought this was a good idea. If you own a plow, Tractor supply has the replacement ripper shanks for a box blade and they already have the holes in the right location.This is what a guy on another forum did and said it worked great.
I am going to try it and see how it works.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...s/PA150007.jpg

ihnick 02-26-2011 02:26 PM

so does a sub soiler do the same as what a chissel plow would do behind a farm tractor?

IHinIN 02-26-2011 03:26 PM

Diz,

That's a good idea but I don't think that would go any deeper than 8" or so. I'm building mine to go 12".

I made a little progress today. I used some plywood to mock up the shank and the cylinder in the retracted position.

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...bsoiler003.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...bsoiler002.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...bsoiler001.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...bsoiler004.jpg

mrcubcadet 02-26-2011 03:37 PM

That will be very cool! Can't wait to see more pics :biggrin2:

ACecil 02-26-2011 05:47 PM

Looks very neat, Adam! Can't wait to see your future updates! :ThumbsUp:

IHinIN 02-27-2011 07:53 PM

Today, I got the pieces made for the front cylinder mount. I'll get it welded tomorrow and start on the rear mount and the shank. It should all be done this week.

IHinIN 03-05-2011 01:54 PM

It's done. It has enough down pressure to lift the back of the tractor off the ground so even if it doesn't work I can always use it to jack up the back end for tire changes. :biggrin2: In the last pic, the tires are about 6" off the floor. Now it needs to stop raining and dry out so I can try it out.

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...bsoiler007.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...bsoiler006.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...bsoiler005.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...bsoiler008.jpg

Cubcrazy 03-05-2011 02:06 PM

Nice job Adam!!
Looks great!

ACecil 03-05-2011 02:10 PM

Excellent craftsmanship, Adam! :beerchug:

mrcubcadet 03-05-2011 03:08 PM

Looks very nice, as always. :ThumbsUp:

Can't wait to see it in action.....

william1041200 03-05-2011 03:39 PM

Awesome!! Can't wait to see if it'll stop that cub in its tracks, or not!

MrGitrdone41 03-05-2011 04:40 PM

It looks great! Can't wait to see it in the garden:beerchug:

IHinIN 03-05-2011 07:37 PM

Thanks guys. Yeah, I can't wait to try it out.

william1041200 03-05-2011 07:42 PM

So, is the sleeve hitch hydraulic? If so, Do you have2 spool valves, or do both work simultaneously? It is beastly looking, and I hope it works as intended!!!

Methos 03-05-2011 08:03 PM

Adam that looks so sweet!

IHinIN 03-06-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by william1041200 (Post 61262)
So, is the sleeve hitch hydraulic? If so, Do you have2 spool valves, or do both work simultaneously? It is beastly looking, and I hope it works as intended!!!

I have dual hydraulics on the 100. I have a 2 spool valve. One spool controls the deck, 3-point, and front blade lift. The other spool is plumbed to front and rear quick connects for the subsoiler and power angle for the front blade.

IHinIN 03-24-2011 07:51 PM

I got to try out my subsoiler yesterday. It works great. It would work even better if the 100 could get enough traction to pull it better. With 130 lbs of weights and chains it still wanted to spin a lot. There were a lot of tree roots so that didn't make it any easier. A couple times it caught a root and when I went to raise it a little to stop the tires from spinning, it ended up lifting the front tires about 8" off the ground. I managed to get it worked up about 10" deep. Then I put the disc on and leveled it out.

I may try adding some weight to the subsoiler to get it to sink better. I tried it with the 3-point on float but it wasn't heavy enough to sink into the ground. It just wanted to scrape along the surface. I had to use down pressure to get it in the ground. That didn't help the traction issues since it was taking weight off the rear tires.

IHinIN 03-24-2011 07:53 PM

I did get some pics with my phone. I'll see if I can figure out how to upload them to my computer.

william1041200 03-24-2011 07:57 PM

Wow! That sounds like you had a lot of fun yesterday! It takes a lot of power to lift the front end 8 inches- thats a lot of weight.

william1041200 03-24-2011 07:59 PM

send the pics to your computer email then go from there.

mrcubcadet 03-24-2011 08:20 PM

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IHinIN 03-24-2011 08:26 PM

Thanks Conner!

william1041200 03-24-2011 08:42 PM

Great Work! :beerchug:

Methos 03-24-2011 09:12 PM

Looks good! Great looking dirt too!

Yamaguy 03-24-2011 09:17 PM

Wow that looks like fun!!!

mrcubcadet 03-24-2011 09:26 PM

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ACecil 03-24-2011 10:23 PM

Awesome pics, Adam! :beerchug:

litlmikeyl 03-26-2011 08:02 PM

Adam,

What is the large piece of black square tubing mounted above your hitch? I'm assuming its a weight of some sort.

cub123 03-26-2011 08:19 PM

I think it is the oil tank for his custom hydraulics maybe?:beerchug:

IHinIN 03-27-2011 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by litlmikeyl (Post 64777)
Adam,

What is the large piece of black square tubing mounted above your hitch? I'm assuming its a weight of some sort.

It is a weight bar. It's a piece of 4" x 1/4" wall tubing filled with 5/8" all-thread. It weighs 63 lbs.

IHinIN 03-27-2011 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cub123 (Post 64782)
I think it is the oil tank for his custom hydraulics maybe?:beerchug:

The reservoir is built into the pump.

IHinIN 08-20-2011 06:43 PM

I made some improvements to my subsoiler to make it work better. I first angled the shank forward to help it pull itself into the ground so I don't have to use down pressure to get it in the ground. That helped but it still wouldn't go more than about 6-8" deep. Then, I added a weight bracket on the back to hold two 2 gallon jugs filled with sand. That added about 50 lbs and now the subsoiler goes in the ground easily without having to use down pressure. It seems to go deeper into ground that hasn't been worked recently. In the pics I was using it in the garden where I had tilled between the rows of sweet corn and it's about 9-10" deep. I tried it along the edge where it hadn't been tilled and it went 12-13" deep. I was amazed that it didn't spin the tires. Those old Sears tires aren't so bad after all.

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...det/sub005.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...det/sub004.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...det/sub003.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...det/sub002.jpg

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...det/sub001.jpg

ACecil 08-20-2011 07:00 PM

Top notch work, as always, Adam! :ThumbsUp:

IHinIN 08-20-2011 07:02 PM

Thanks Allen.

_DX3_ 08-20-2011 07:05 PM

Your work is impressive. I like that sub soiler

Diz Jr. 08-20-2011 08:53 PM

Glad to see you are getting it perfected :biggrin2:
Nice fab work :ThumbsUp:


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