Saving a 1982 Yellow & White CCC 782
 

I acquired this Y/W 784 about a month ago when picking up a 1641. Both were headed to scrap, so they threw in this tractor. Sitting 10-20 years (owner got it in the same condition I did), it has the original KT17 Series II.

I was curious why it still has the IH S/N/Model # system, despite being CCC produced in 1982 (I surmised from the 142 in the model).

782 142 U
700455

My immediate plans are to rebuild the carb (once a kit shows up) and see how she runs. Intake manifold and carb were off when I got it. Fuel pump runs good, and I replaced the lines/filter. Engine being somewhat apart I had assumed it threw a rod like most KT17s like to (I had that experience with a Series II in my 1711, too), but it has good compression and doesn't seem to have any extra holes.

I did have to get a new front tire, and found a matching Turf Saver to compliment the other side. Short term plans are mounting some R1 Goodyears I picked up and adding a sleeve hitch that was destined for the 1811, but seems like a better fit on the cast rear (saves $80 for the Xtreme tabbed ear U hitch).

Jeff should have a Brinly adapter shipping out for me Monday, so outside of fabricating a lift rod to match the one on the 1711 I should be good to go on both of those aspects.

An aside, Rustoleum transport yellow seems to match the Iron Guard I used on the 1811 wheel weights last fall (and goes on a lot better/thicker). If it were a bigger project I'd look harder for Rustoleum Marigold. :beerchug:

Some pictures of when I first got it (on the trailer) and how it looked tonight.

That is a super early CCC tractor-probably has the Brownsville Tenn address on the tag, instead of Cleveland, OH.

Yes, exactly! Thought that was neat. Cast rear too.

Almost seems too early to have the Series II?

The KT17 Series I were installed in Chassis Serial Numbers below 726124.

The KT17 Series II were installed in Chassis Serial Numbers above 726125.

Obviously, almost all the Series I have been replaced due to failures. They are a rare sight today.

Thanks -- it would seem this has been replaced. I saw it has the holes in the tin and blockoff on the block for the remote filters...I wonder if my M18 spare ones would bolt right up.

I sold the conversion kit I had back when my other Series II launched a rod. Certainly this one shipped with a Series I, then, but must have been replaced before Magnums were a popular replacement. :beerchug:

The M18 Oil filter bosses will fit the KT17 series II's so equipped with the provisions. Unfortunately, not all Series II's had oil filter provisions!

I saw this one had the block off plate and the holes in the shroud for it. I'm not sure what else would be needed besides maybe adding a hole in the firewall (will compare to 1811 mounting).

Probably a value-added improvement. :bigthink:

My 682 has the M18 with the remote oil filter added to the firewall. I drilled a couple of holes to snugly fit it under the fuel tank. I trimmed the firewall to hood/side panel seal to accommodate the flexible oil lines.

I'll give it a shot once it proves to be worthy.

Treated the 782 & 984 to new gas caps. Stens 125-280 shows Made in USA, amazingly.

:American Flag 1:

I've bought both the Stens and Cub Cadet brand caps. They are identical other than the wrappers and the Cub cap was almost double the price. They do differ from the original slightly, but are far better than a brown lens and loose needle.

Yes, both seem to be the same OEM. I put the "Cub Cadet" cap in the 1811 and it was identical to the Stens. :beerchug:

Do they make a diesel version or am I just going to have to remember that??!

:biggrin2:

Diesel fuel cap/gauge is 751-3044.

https://www.ihccw.com/image/cache/ca...33-450x450.JPG

I wonder if the 882/782D was the first CC garden tractor with a rear gas tank?

Obviously they liked the idea, since Cyclops, Series K, and LTX/GTX series all stayed that way until the XT series.

I believe that is correct. They also used a similar tank in the lawn tractors from the late 80's and up to. In fact they use the same fuel gauge cap as the diesels.

Got the carb and intake back on, as well as everything else buttoned up and the mouse nests blown out. Runs pretty good and drives great.

I do need to find 1 of those plastic clip/locks for the throttle arm going to the carb, and one clamp for the choke cable (which I should have somewhere).

Kohler 25 158 11-S Throttle Linkage Bushing

Kohler 235778-S Choke cable clamp

Diesel cap has Fuel on it. That one is incorrect.
Are those Stens ones long enough to go to the bottom of the tank on a 782?

BTW nice work on the 782, does that one have the fuel shutoff on the carb?

Thank you! If it stops raining and I can rig up or find a bushing, I'll spread some lime with it today.

No carb fuel shutoff, and yes it's long enough for both machines as well as the 1811. They're all Kulch OEM. :beerchug:

Kohler 235778-S Choke cable clamp


Thanks for the P/N -- found the clamp already, but was about to lookup the bushing. Ordered 2 for next time :biggrin2:

Probably have one on a parts motor somewhere, but most of the extras I have are for the single cylinders.

Checked my inventory and I do have the hoses and filter base from a 1811 I snagged off feebay sometime last year. I'm not sure if there are any more adapters needed, or if the (45 deg flare?) fittings screw right onto the block/fittings once that block off plate is removed.

The Series I is not rare. There are 82 series cub cadets all over the internet for sale, and not for sale, that still have the Series I in them.

From my understanding, if you had a flat yard and stayed on top of oil changes they lasted fine. If you mow hillsides and ditches like me, they didn't last at all. I've only seen a few Series I for sale, and probably half were blown.

They are all gone around here. Good riddance..

Yeah they sure had to be careful with the hills. I'm sure there were alot of ticked off owners when the series I first came out.

That sure would suck to throw a rod on a new tractor. I guess if it was under warranty you wouldn't mind so much, minus the fact you'd probably get another KT17. Any former dealers/mechs on here have a record for most engines?

They were a very poor design, and almost sent Kohler into bankruptcy.
John Deere was so pissed they said they would NEVER speck another Kohler engine in their products.
But if an operator didn't rev them cold, but allowed them to warm up as should be any engine, and kept the oil changed regularly they held up OK mostly, and as far as running on an angle not as much of a problem as now remembered.
The connecting rod oil splash design didn't work as good on those twins, as it did on all single cyl engines of various manufactures.
I would venture to guess most operators ran them hard and didn't do oil changes or even check the oil.
Add that to a poor design as I said before, and it was a recipe for disaster.
They sure as hell were not bullet proof like the old "K" series singles.

The later KT series II corrected those faults with pressure oiling to the connecting rods by cross drilling the crankshafts. and installing a pressure regulator ball/spring to achieve #40 at hot idle and over #80 cold.
Also some were specified with oil filters mounted on the block or remotely.
The last and best are the magnums with mag ignition more and thicker webbing in the crankcase, *30 valve face angle and thicker crankshaft diameter at the base of the flywheel taper, as some skid steer loaders were
experiencing problems there due to the abuse a skid steer gets.
Blaw blaw blaw,-- old men ramble :BlahBlah:

While the KT 17 Series II is a vast improvement over the I, I have had a few chuck rods. The Magnums seem to be more robust in every category.

Agreed. Can't beat a magnum, although the commands seem a little easier on fuel. Just stay away from the smaller commands/command HO. :bash2:

Got the china carb dialed right in tonight after the throttle linkage bushing arrived. Runs and drives great. Also installed the sleeve hitch (minus the lift bar) and changed the hydraulic filter (was planning on doing fluid, but it had spotless hytran).

I see yours also has the iron rear.

Here is another early CCC- A 682..

700912

Has the yellow dash tower, International dash, and Brownsville tag..

https://******************/marketpla...0272383627574/

https://******************/marketpla...0272383627574/

It seems your link is corrupt; however I almost bought a Y/W 682 on marketplace to go with my Y/W 782, 982. Mine is ~500 earlier than that one. :beerchug:

Apparently, the board has an automatic f. acebook filter... I hate f. acebook too, but come on....:BangPC::angry:

That's odd, but it's marketplace is valuable :biggrin2:

Rear tires look good. Pressure washed again, and put all the tin back on. Spread lime with it last night around the walnut trees. Runs like a top, and according to the wacky hour meter is under 300 (I'd assume that to be on the new engine, not total).

Thats a nice tail..:beerchug:

Thanks. It'll look better w/ the Brinly adapter and cultivator on there. Jeff had some part shortages but hoped to ship today. :beerchug:

Can anyone make hood stripes for the CCC 782? I only see the IH version on eBay, and none available from CC. The P/N their site lists is 759-3153 which is not accurate from what I can tell.

Here's my 984's for reference. Should be just like a 982/1711 style, but with 782.

https://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/...1&d=1654106358