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dbuck 05-30-2020 04:48 PM

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:Help: While mowing in some heavy grass, notice engine Ch18S pulling down and darn near killing the tractor. Figured it was firing on one cyl. sure enough. As sitting in the seat, the left bank not firing. Figured it might be a dead plug, install new plug same. All my experience working on Kohler engines is with the K/CV series not the Ch. So I am assuming the I have a mag problem, to get to the mag/mags do I have to pull the engine? Also, why does the parts breakdown show only One (1) mag? when this is a twin cly engine. Any help/advice concerning this matter will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time. :American Flag 1:

Sam Mac 05-30-2020 05:06 PM

I would pull the engine. Did you see if you are getting spark on both plugs. Just put a plug against the engine and crank it over and look the see if your getting spark.

R Bedell 05-30-2020 05:27 PM

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The Parts Breakdown shows only one (for reference only) but in the parts box it says "Requires two".

dbuck 05-30-2020 05:43 PM

1864
 
:Thanks: For your reply. Checked both sides, nice spark on the right bank as sitting in the seat. I check the compression on both banks @ 170, did not seem right, so I checked with a different gauge and same reading both sides. I bet this is going to be an experience pulling the engine, as I have never done so.

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dbuck 05-30-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 497308)
The Parts Breakdown shows only one (for reference only) but in the parts box it says "Requires two".

I am going to have to learn to read, as I completely miss that Requires two. Thank you for your reply. :American Flag 1:

CubDieselFan 05-30-2020 07:05 PM

I had one die in my 1864 a few years ago and replaced both of them while I had the engine out.

SS5150 05-31-2020 12:00 AM

Went through the same issue with my Command powered 782 last year. Changed both.
I did crank seals while it was out too.

dbuck 05-31-2020 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CubDieselFan (Post 497319)
I had one die in my 1864 a few years ago and replaced both of them while I had the engine out.

Good idea. :American Flag 1:

dbuck 05-31-2020 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SS5150 (Post 497332)
Went through the same issue with my Command powered 782 last year. Changed both.
I did crank seals while it was out too.

Me too. :American Flag 1:

Rex B 06-01-2020 09:09 AM

My 1864 is out for head gaskets. Is there a how-to on changing out the seals? The back looks like a challenge.

R Bedell 06-01-2020 09:16 AM

I can send you a Kohler Command Service Manual if you don't have one.

dbuck 06-01-2020 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 497387)
I can send you a Kohler Command Service Manual if you don't have one.

Thank you for your offer. I thought I had one, but it seems to grow legs and disappear. I found one online and I am copying it.

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West Valley G 06-02-2020 11:03 AM

Is that manual on this site where I can print it? If not please let me know where
you found it online so I can print it as well.

Ken

dbuck 06-02-2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by West Valley G (Post 497429)
Is that manual on this site where I can print it? If not please let me know where
you found it online so I can print it as well.

Ken

:Morning: Not on this site. Go to Google, type in the Ch18 engine service manual. Kohler site will come up and it listed there. :American Flag 1:

Sam Mac 06-02-2020 02:09 PM

I have the Cyclops service manual and the Kohler manual on "Cub Cadet Cyclops" on Face book. Join and check out the files section.

Rex B 06-08-2020 09:11 AM

Sam, where do you get those fire-ring head gaskets?

Sam Mac 06-08-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rex B (Post 497753)
Sam, where do you get those fire-ring head gaskets?

I think they are NLA.

Rex B 06-08-2020 05:28 PM

This one looks suspicious. It shows for the CH25.

https://www.everestpartssupplies.com...730-ch740-cv25

dbuck 06-08-2020 07:07 PM

Something does not quite look right. I wonder if the main part of the gasket is asbestos or metal clad. :American Flag 1:

Rex B 06-08-2020 07:36 PM

I thought that too. Some of the other gaskets have an embossed line around the bore about 1/8" away where a fire ring should be, but it's obviously just asbestos. At least this one looked like it has a different material in that area.
Maybe I'll see if a human being is at that location tomorrow.

B440? 06-10-2020 10:54 PM

How about these copper head gaskets? Any good?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/KOHLER-COMM...UAAOxyYANTXcfB

dbuck 06-12-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by B440? (Post 497903)
How about these copper head gaskets? Any good?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/KOHLER-COMM...UAAOxyYANTXcfB

I have no idea. Is their sufficient thickness that when they are torqued down to keep the valves from hitting the head. :American Flag 1:

ol'George 06-12-2020 09:44 PM

Yer head/block needs to be flat or they won't seal well, because
they are not as forgiving as composite gaskets.

Rex B 06-12-2020 11:35 PM

I’m thinking those are sold for the puller guys running more compression.
For AL heads on AL block I’m going to want graphite composition gaskets


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