Hydraulic experts needed
 

Hi all,
I’m starting the process of a hydraulic powered rear sickle mower.
Would also like this pump to run a log splitter if possible. So if someone could recommend a pump and motor for this application or direct me to somebody’s
website that has the charts or whatever to help decide.
Pump to be mounted under the front PTO and tank to be placed wherever I need it to.
Just need a place to get started, cause I have no skills in the world of hydrolics.
I have every other tool needed for the fabrication. (CNC mills,lathes, waterjet)

Thanks

Terry, go to "My Tractor Forum" and scroll down through the sub forums until you get to the "hydraulics" section. There are several people who can help you. Post a thread with your questions.... I'm sure you will get lots of help. There is a man that goes by "Tudor" who has a wealth of knowledge regarding most anything related to hydraulics.

What he said just be patent with all of the ad's on MTF :bash2:

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I would be glad to figure it out WITH you, but take the Intelligent masses opinion of MTF or WTF or WGAF... either way Im sure they are way more intelligent than any one here, just ask anyone here...:BlahBlah:

Just the man I was looking for! :beerchug:
I was hoping for a learning experience from this.
My only thought so far is that the log splitter would drive the train on the pump choice cause the sickle mower can’t take much power to run( at least that’s what I think based on the fact I used to mow hay with a IH C that had a 9ft? bar.

As soon as it’s light out tomorrow, I will snap pics of the sickle mower. It’s a mid mount Haban (I don’t know the number) that’s going to be made into a rear mount and attached to a 782 or my other 2182. Hence not wanting to use rear PTO. Plus it will be unique being hydro run.

Here is the mower. I see it’s a 402. Going to be a lot of brackets I’m not going to use.

Well I've basically got a hydraulic PTO figured out that Im hoping to incorporate into the design of my three point hitch. But the components should work with your sickle mower as well! Just got home, I'll have to dig through my notes.

Rescue 11.....I didn't mean to imply that NO ONE here could help the OP with his inquiry. I know for a fact that you are very qualified to supply the information needed, and I hope you do.
I referred him to MTF just because I am familiar with their hydraulics forum. My intention was to help provide another source of information. I certainly didn't intend to pee in your Wheaties!

I don’t think he took it that way, at least it didn’t sound like that to me.
If you want to offend rescue11, you are going to have to try harder. :biggrin2:

Terry, what is the bore of your log splitter? You say your log splitter is a priority over the sickle mower, so what is your log splitter powered by at the present time? Or is it To Be Built?

Will be building it. Figured the splitter would require the most pressure so that’s why I was basing the pump on that. Splitter is not a priority so if one pump will not do both then I would pick the sickle mower as what I need the most.

Misinterpreted this part of your earlier post.

It just depends, if you're wanting a pump that will run anything you throw at it, you're looking at higher GPM, along with a suggested PSI north of 2K. 13 gallons a minute would run your log splitter fairly well, along with anything else you could think of, IE your sickle mower, a shredder, or something that I've thought about... Hydraulic drive post hole digger. You have enough horse power to run one that big, but the biggest issue with having that kind of flow is oil Cooling. General rule of thumb for cooling is one gallon of storage per 1 gallon flow. So you could probably get by with a 10 gallon tank. The other option would be to install a oil cooler with an electric fan. Variables such as run time and load go into that as well, meaning if you weren't planning to mow 60 Acres of Alfalfa in a day you can probably get by with a smaller Reservoir. Or if you weren't figuring on splitting 60 cords of wood a day, you can probably go with the smaller Reservoir.

13 gallons a minute is basically what I have figured up for my hydraulic drive PTO that will allow me to transfer the power and torque that I want. I'm thinking this is overkill for your application, but again it really depends on how much time you're planning on running this setup

Really would like to know what size cylinder you are running on the log splitter :bigthink: :beerchug:

(Edit) If you used a 4.5" x 24" cylinder your cycle time (without a load on the cylinder) would be around 14 seconds. If you had a 2,500 psi relief, you would be looking at approximately 20 ton worth of splitting force.

That sounds like a place to start. Mine would be limited use. I don’t heat with wood, just a fireplace. Sickle mower for the sides of my lane. If it took 15 min to mow the lane I would be surprised. Thanks for the information :beerchug:

pm sent, looking forward to your build! :beerchug::beerchug:

Looks like this is gonna be a fun build. We're gonna need lots of pics too Terry.
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