80W Gear Oil
 

I know there's been a lot of debate on this. Not looking to create a debate thread.

Need to put fresh oil in the creeper & trans of my 100. The 70/100 manual calls for hy-tran (obviously "hytran-ultra" would be overkill for an non-powershift unit).

Bemoaning the cost of hytran, someone recommended just running 80w-90 gear oil instead of hydraulic fluid. Anyone ever do this on their cub? The 80w-90 doesn't look real cheap either.

Just curious.

I run 80w90 in my gear drives with no issue, if you live in the north and have really cold winters then the hytrans might be better but that said I live in western PA and it gets plenty cold here and I don't have an issue with the 80w90.

Here is what IH recommended. It is your tractor, your time, and your money, do as you see fit...

Transmission Lubrication Chart

The manual trans Cub Cadet is open where the gear shifter goes into the trans. This is what Hy-Tran will do when water gets in the trans.
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My 100/70 manual states you can use Hy-Tran or 30 weight oil.

Agree X2

I run Shell Rotella T 30W in my gear drive stuff. But I also change it on a regular basis. If you're not going to change it for an extended period I'd use the Hytran

I went to Tractor Supply ( TSC ) and purchased this. Hy Tran equivalent

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I wound up going with the same stuff. I'm confident Traveler Premium will work just fine for this task. For all I know, it's probably good enough for some older farmall row crop tractors as well. Local IH dealer wanted $18/gal for Hytran. No Thanks.

Alternatively, I couldn't narrow down which NAPA fluid was MS-1209 compliant. And the guys at my local napa aren't very helpful on such things. So, TSC it was.

I think eighteen bucks for a gallon of Hytran is a pretty good price. Hytran is what I would use.

That being said, it is your tractor and you can do as you wish. Most tractor fluids have an IH B-6 spec, so you should be alright with a gear drive. 80-90 oil may be a little thick for very cold weather if you operate your tractor year-round.

I run HyTran in my super stock pulling garden tractor. Haven't had any issues.

If the Traveller from TSC at half the price of HyTran has the same specs then it seems to me that you are paying for brand name recognition with HyTran.

If your doctor recommends that you get on a blood thinner to reduce chance of a stroke, and suggests Plavix (brand name) at $200 for 30 day supply, or clopidogrel (same thing but generic) at $13 for 30 days, how many people insist on the brand name??

They are not. They are close. I have used that TSC stuff, and it's not the same. HyTran is a PATENTED FORMULA and NO-ONE can make it. Viscosity Oil Co is the only company licensed to make the oil for Case-IH.

Budwizzer & California Red make excellent blood thinner!:beerchug:
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LOL George, I wouldn't take a bet that ole Sam doesn't add just a shot or so of Chivas to his gear oil.

LOL too, but he seems to like HyTran so much, you just might have it back a$$wards.

All kidding aside Sam KNOWS THESE HYDRO TRANSMISSIONS! Many of us that have had cubs pass through our hands with little to no maintenance on them is a testament itself to how good that HYTRAN is. There are other pis on this site about the benefits of HYTRAN, good stuff no doubts about it and is all that I will use in my tractors.

I think you hit the nail on the head, that being, for heavy use or if you are one who does not keep up with regular oil and filter changes then HyTran should be the way you go. On the other hand as long as you don't beat the snot out of your equipment and treat it right, other brands can work fine too. But like he says, "your tractor, your money, your choice"!