KT17 add oil filter.
 

My 682 is missing the starter side engine shroud and from what I am reading it had the serial number on it.

The air cleaner says Series II. The service manual shows a serial number break between low and high pressure engines. If this is the break between Series I and II then I have a high pressure oil system. If not how can I tell ?

Does the
Kohler-85-755-23-s-Oil-Filter-Adapter-Kohler-Magnum-M-18-M-20-Engines
Work on the KT17 Series II?

Howard

No, you need the remote filter package. Make sure your engine has the block off plate for the adapter.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231424315522...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

There is NO difference in Oil Pressure between the Series I and Series II engines. The difference is in how the "rod journals" got lubricated. The Series I used the "oil splash" method, while the Series II had pressurized channels. See attached image...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...s.jpg~original

"Some" of the Series II had an oil filter provision and some did not.

This is confusing, on the same page as the diagrams it talks about 5 PSI and 20-50 PSI systems.

Found a link on another forum showing the on tractor adapter on a JD 317. The cylinder tin and frame had to be modified so maybe that is why the remote filter setup is used on the cub.

Thanks for the link Bill

Howard

Let me say this, it has been my finding that series 1 had maybe #10 of pressure on a good day as provided by the pressure relief spring.
The series 2 and magnums had over #35-45+.
You can use a filter on the side of the block location without going the remote route, but it is not as convient to change the filter, and you have to snip the tin away from the filter area slightly.
I can post a pix of a magnum engine in my 782 with the block filter mount location if someone wants it
EDIT:
If you have a series 1 you have no provision on the block for a filter or a place to put the adaptor for a remote filter.

Per the Kohler Parts Manuals, the Oil Pump on the Series I and Series II are the SAME.

And right you are sir,
the pressure relief spring is the difference.

The Model/Serial tag is located on the Top of the engine, not the side ducts.

Again, NOT all KT-17 Series II had Oil Filter provisions.

All this information is correct. Just thought I'd jump in so that there are 3 that agree. :beerchug:

This is the root of my confusion. It is from the Twin Cylinder Engine Service Manual. Please forgive me as I know you have been posting about this subject for quite a while.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...20pressure.PNG

If the universe makes sense. and often it don't, they started putting the blockoff plates on engines starting with 24300.

This looks like it may be the tag with the serial number, if it was the rubber fuel line erased the actual numbers.

Unless I am still confused the engine does have the blockoff plate. So I would guess I am good to go for the filter.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...8/blockoff.jpg

Yes you are correct, if it were a series 1, that would not be there.
Now you can either put on the correct divorced
filter, as most do, like Bill 682 posted pictured on evilpray or go with a different plate that accepts the filter on the block like I did.
I will go out and take a pix of that instalation in a bit.:biggrin2:

No, they did not. I don't know the SN# break for when they did, but some Series II DO NOT have the filter base. Only way to know is by SN#. But, NBD because yours obviously does. Yes, the pic you posted of the tag is the SN# tag.

Looks like George has got you covered for pics. :beerchug:

Attached pix of block mounter filter on 782 as mentioned previously
Not difficult to remove from front or side, a strap wrench works best from the front with grill dropped down.

:bigthink:

I never seen a Cub Cadet 682/782 with this type of Oil Filter arrangement....

Not factory. Possible with a replacement engine though. In this case I think that George put it on. It is Kohler though. They used that particular block on other applications. I was never a fan of that set-up. Messy when changing oil. JD used it.

Factory cub cadet, just not on a horizontal.--
I chose to use it there instead of a divorced or remote if you perfer, style setup.

That engine origionally was a MV18-- vertical from a cub 1720 that I converted to horizontal. it had that filter base, so instead of looking for a remote style setup/hoses etc. I just used it and modified the cooling tin for added convience.
I personally think it is cleaner looking and gets a bit of air flow that a remote type does not.
I put a curved piece of metal under it when changing to keep the oil contained in a pan, eliminating a mess.
It works for me.:biggrin2:

:bigthink:
That explains why it was not used on a Cub Cadet KT-17.

Actually I think it was used on the kt-17's as J. Mech said, Deere used it amoung others, but I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time Ha,LOL.
but no matter, several options for the fellow to consider when installing a filter on a his filterless engine.

Ok, I can still do this. I do not want to mess with old hoses and am over 100 miles from a place that could maybe make them.

The number for George's MV adapter is 82-755-23-s.

On ebay there is "Kohler 85-755-23-s Oil Filter Adapter, Kohler Magnum, M-18, M-20 Engines" Link (ordered)

The Magnum's were the followup to the KT engines and said to be basically the same engine.

The fellow listing it said he knew it would work on the KT17 and I could return it if it did not. He sounded quite positive.

Fingers crossed.

@Roland is there a build thread on you CC4WD? Very impressive.

FWIW I know its winter but I want the warm weather back so I can play with my toys.

Correct

??? :Huh:

I was assuming you built this tractor in your album http://onlycubcadets.net/forum/pictu...748430&thumb=1.

I wished I had...:biggrin2: