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Guitar Guy 10-30-2014 12:03 AM

Any thoughts on the 682?
 
I'm looking at a 682 for sale, serial # 667XXX.... in the $700 range, which seems a little steep, as it is in average used condition. Haven't looked at it in person yet, he said it runs well, and the hydro & everything else functions as it should ..... 50" deck included.

I currently have a Quiet Line 1000. Can anyone tell me if the 1000 wide frame decks, wheels, and snow blade will work on the 682?

Any thoughts in general on the desirability, value, problems, things to look for, etc., with the 682? Any info. will be appreciated.

JT .... also: I think that serial # is 1980 - 81. Can anyone confirm that?

bolivier 10-30-2014 12:11 AM

Wheels are the same. Deck is the same except the center pulley. The 682 uses a 5/8 belt, where the 1000 uses 1/2. Jimbob put a wide frame snow blade on his 1863/64. Can't remember which it is. He said it worked, but I think he had to trim something. Check out the threads he started and you will find it.
The 682 is a nice tractor. It does have the manual lift. After having tractors with hydraulic lift, I'm sold. I'll keep my 100 just because it's cool, but for any real work I use a tractor with hydraulic lift.
Although, if all you are going to do with it is mow, I don't think it will really matter. Decks aren't that heavy to lift.
$700 seems a bit much unless it's a pretty nice tractor. Maybe really nice. It could be 79-81.

jeepchicken5000 10-30-2014 07:55 AM

when I was first buying tractors my 682 was my second one after the 123, I had that for over a year did hardly anything to it other then the oil and hydro fluid, it came with a 50 inch mower deck and I paid $450 for mine now wasn't the best had holes in the deck but it ran and drove decent, after using it to mow the lawn it did seem to use oil never really saw any smoke but now and then you did. I since sold it to my neighbor and he loves it drives all over town with it, the fuel pump is bad and I told him but he wont listen and he had to do a hydro valve as it went bad. Other then that that's about it for 2 years of use between us. there great tractors but it just seems the KT engines seem to have more problems then the Kohler K series, at least all the ones for sale here locally do

dvogtvpe 10-30-2014 08:49 AM

if you have a hilly yard or you mow a ditch and it has the series 1 KT you'll want to stay away from it. side hill mowing kills them

J-Mech 10-30-2014 12:25 PM

82 series are good tractors. They are personally my favorite styled machine. Brent was close on year, but since you didn't supply the last 3 digits we can't tell for sure. It's not an 81. Could be a 79 or 80 with the #667XXX number. That would make it an IH machine. Which is cool if nothing else. Don is right about the KT motor. I have a 682, but the engine was bad when I got it. It did run, but knocked. I pulled the engine and have a V-twin awaiting install when I get the time. If you get it a engine will more than likely be in it's near future. I hate to knock the KT's but their life is all about gone in most of them. $700 is way too much unless it has a replacement engine. (KT series II or a Mag, or even a V-twin.) Because of the almost guarantee of engine failure I don't want to give more than $350 for one of those machines. But, if it's nice..... your call. All your attachments that fit the QL you have will attach to it no problems. But, as Brent said, you will have to change the center pulley on your deck to make the mower work. All in all if you can get them down on price it wouldn't be a bad buy, and I say that without seeing it. Mainly just because I like those machines. :beerchug:

cubcadet 10-30-2014 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 293576)
82 series are good tractors. They are personally my favorite styled machine. Brent was close on year, but since you didn't supply the last 3 digits we can't tell for sure. It's not an 81. Could be a 79 or 80 with the #667XXX number. That would make it an IH machine. Which is cool if nothing else. Don is right about the KT motor. I have a 682, but the engine was bad when I got it. It did run, but knocked. I pulled the engine and have a V-twin awaiting install when I get the time. If you get it a engine will more than likely be in it's near future. I hate to knock the KT's but their life is all about gone in most of them. $700 is way too much unless it has a replacement engine. (KT series II or a Mag, or even a V-twin.) Because of the almost guarantee of engine failure I don't want to give more than $350 for one of those machines. But, if it's nice..... your call. All your attachments that fit the QL you have will attach to it no problems. But, as Brent said, you will have to change the center pulley on your deck to make the mower work. All in all if you can get them down on price it wouldn't be a bad buy, and I say that without seeing it. Mainly just because I like those machines. :beerchug:

LOL, don't want to give more than $350? Jon, a nice original 682 with a nice 44in deck will bring $800 at least IMO, and that's because I have seen it.:biggrin2: don't start like last time.:biggrin2:

J-Mech 10-30-2014 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cubcadet (Post 293579)
LOL, don't want to give more than $350? Jon, a nice original 682 with a nice 44in deck will bring $800 at least IMO, and that's because I have seen it.:biggrin2: don't start like last time.:biggrin2:

I won't tell you what I gave for mine then Nick. And it ran when I got it!! Mine is also a IH built machine and had 3pt. I didn't even give that for my 582 and the sheet metal and paint on it looked PERFECT, and came with a deck. It's all up to the buyer. Here's the big deal on a 682. More than likely it will need a motor. For a tractor that you know your going to have to drop anywhere from $400 to $1800 for an engine in, I just won't spend that much. Like I said, if the KT I has been replaced with a better motor..... then yeah I might give $600 to $800 depending on condition. Like I said, that's my opinion. Doesn't make it wrong. :beerchug:

cubcadet 10-30-2014 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 293587)
I won't tell you what I gave for mine then Nick. And it ran when I got it!! Mine is also a IH built machine and had 3pt. I didn't even give that for my 582 and the sheet metal and paint on it looked PERFECT, and came with a deck. It's all up to the buyer. Here's the big deal on a 682. More than likely it will need a motor. For a tractor that you know your going to have to drop anywhere from $400 to $1800 for an engine in, I just won't spend that much. Like I said, if the KT I has been replaced with a better motor..... then yeah I might give $600 to $800 depending on condition. Like I said, that's my opinion. Doesn't make it wrong. :beerchug:

Yep, understood, mine has the kt17 series 1 I think which is the "not so good" one, yea your 582 is nice , ccc built right ? Mine was IH and so is my 682.

jimbob200521 10-30-2014 02:39 PM

OP: I agree with what was said above, but I'll also say this; I'm about to pick up 2 782's (one without a motor) for what John said he wouldn't pay above :bigeyes: :biggrin2: That being said, if it doesn't have a Series I and is in good shape, pay whatever you are comfortable with. The great thing about Cubs, at least now, is that there are always more out there :beerchug:

cubcadet 10-30-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbob200521 (Post 293602)
OP: I agree with what was said above, but I'll also say this; I'm about to pick up 2 782's (one without a motor) for what John said he wouldn't pay above :bigeyes: :biggrin2: That being said, if it doesn't have a Series I and is in good shape, pay whatever you are comfortable with. The great thing about Cubs, at least now, is that there are always more out there :beerchug:

Series 1 are ok if you aren't mowing on hills.

cubby102 10-30-2014 03:00 PM

I've owned a few 782s and 682s with series one and two engines.....and to be honest im not a fan of the twin cylinders at all....they sound good and look cool dont get me wrong but as far as the kt17s ive had if the didnt knock the fuel pumps were going bad and filling the crank case with fuel or they were already blown up...not to mention their fuel use isnt the slightest bit impressive....and my 1450 with its 14 horse single and 50inch deck has done just as much as I ever asked of it without hesitating.

jimbob200521 10-30-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cubcadet (Post 293604)
Series 1 are ok if you aren't mowing on hills.

Correct :beerchug:

I've owned them before and have a feeling I'm going to own one again :biggrin2:

Guitar Guy 10-30-2014 04:19 PM

Thanks for the info, folks. Yes, everything around here is hilly.

I'm going to keep the 1000 for mowing, and maybe use the other for plowing snow ... and later, if I get some camping property, maybe mowing some.

I'm thinking I may be better off staying smaller, and single cyl. like maybe 12 to 14 HP. My 10HP has power to spare, for my needs.

I'd like to find another Quietline style, with the engine covers & front exhaust. Other than the QL 1000, and QL1200, are there any other similar models? Maybe one in a hydro?

JT

cubcadet 10-30-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitar Guy (Post 293611)
Thanks for the info, folks. Yes, everything around here is hilly.

I'm going to keep the 1000 for mowing, and maybe use the other for plowing snow ... and later, if I get some camping property, maybe mowing some.

I'm thinking I may be better off staying smaller, and single cyl. like maybe 12 to 14 HP. My 10HP has power to spare, for my needs.

I'd like to find another Quietline style, with the engine covers & front exhaust. Other than the QL 1000, and QL1200, are there any other similar models? Maybe one in a hydro?

JT

Yes, the 1250, 1450, and the 1650.

drglinski 10-30-2014 05:02 PM

Dad's 782 has a series 1 and he uses it to mow on hills all the time. Not a good idea I know, but he's been using it about 15 years or more no engine problems yet.

J-Mech 10-30-2014 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cubcadet (Post 293590)
Yep, understood, mine has the kt17 series 1 I think which is the "not so good" one, yea your 582 is nice , ccc built right ? Mine was IH and so is my 682.


Yep! My 582 is an early CC tractor. Still has cast iron rear. But the 682 I have is IH built. The 582 I got was in the nicest shape of any machine I have ever bought. Except maybe the 1811..... but I've had it 15 years, so it really wasn't that old (relatively speaking) when I got it. :beerchug:

Most everyone is willing to pay more than I am for things. That's ok. When asking for opinions on price, I give my :TwoCents: I will also note, that condition on the machine doesn't matter to me at all. I'd rather buy a machine that is wore out for $100-$250 and spend $1000 on it, than pay $700 for a machine and spend $500 on it. Because you know they all need work. Easier for me to come up with a few hundred at a time than a bunch all at once. Like I said, it's my philosophy. I have running machines and don't care if they sit a while after I buy them until I have time to make them my own. :beerchug: FWIW, I am getting more apprehensive of the twin cylinders. They are just too costly to repair.

darkminion_17 10-30-2014 08:04 PM

Stick with the single cyl,
just my 2☆☆

cubcadet 10-30-2014 08:49 PM

[QiUOTE=darkminion_17;293647]Stick with the single cyl,
just my 2☆☆[/QUOTE]

I agree lew.:beerchug:

red56turbo 10-31-2014 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 293647)
Stick with the single cyl,
just my 2☆☆

Nah...........
My vote is for the triple cylinders. The kind that smoke. Most run for thousands of hours with the proper maintenance. :BlahBlah: :biggrin2:

cub123 10-31-2014 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by red56turbo (Post 293691)
Nah...........
My vote is for the triple cylinders. The kind that smoke. Most run for thousands of hours with the proper maintenance. :BlahBlah: :biggrin2:

Agreed:biggrin2:

biggie56 10-31-2014 10:41 PM

Well, after mowing for the last 3-4 years with a 105 that uses oil an makes your eyes water!! And has tight sloppy steering. I bought my 682 with a one year old series II reman engine an nice 44 in. deck. I gave 900 for it an love it!!! I mow an hour or so at a time an after several weeks the oil is still clean as the day it was changed!! This 682 is like drivin a caddy!! But like was said earlier...I probably wouldve passed on it if it still had the series I engine. I have a hilly yard.


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