Creeper Leaking
 

So my never EVER ending battle with this 108 continues. Just saw a small drip on the ground under the tractor and found the the creeper is leaking out of the drive shaft area. What parts are normally parts that wear and should be replaced so I can place an order. Thanks you

Seals and gaskets.

From what I can tell there are only two that I can see. I'll order these, but did I miss anything? I'm going off partstree guide....

http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=c...&dn=0012400016

Cub Cadet 721-3011
Seal, Input Shaft Brg Cage Oil

Cub Cadet 721-3010
O-Ring, 2-7/16 X 2-5/8 X 3/32

I only see one seal, and one gasket.

Talk to Lew, he knows the part number for the "cheap seal". :biggrin2:
You can make a gasket.

Will do. right now I'm just using RTV sealer for the gasket and it works great. I've read a lot of good things about this method and thought I would give it a show.

So about the whole "never EVER ending" thing in this post. This tractor is just killing me guys :( Part of the deal (sit tight cuz here's where I open up and rant to you all) is that I really have nothing to compare what a good tractor or setting on a tractor should be. This makes it very difficult to setup and tune something when you have zero to go off of. The posts and YouTube videos are major help but still leaves a lot out. I now this tread is about creeper parts but it's creeping :) into a vent thread for me. Again, sorry :(

Gene,

You obviously are not any kind of mechanic. I personally think you are really pushing your limits. I suggest finding a good mechanic. Perhaps a local independent would be willing to work with you. I personally think that you (this goes for EVERYONE) should "know your limits" and abide by them. For me, it's computers. I don't fool with the stupid things. I have a brother who does, and I let him fix mine. I don't tear mine apart and go looking on forums to see if someone can walk me through it. Wouldn't matter if I did, I'd be as lost as if you had dropped me into the middle of a South American jungle. I'm a smart guy, but I draw my own line in the sand when it comes to some things. I'm sure I can figure them out, but I have better ways of spending my time than trying to start at "101" but needing to be at "801". Know what I mean? Hope you don't think I'm being mean, because I don't mean to be at all. I just think that perhaps you would be more happy driving your cub, than always trying to learn how to fix it. :beerchug:


Oh, and RTV is not always a good substitute for a gasket. Sometimes, on some things it's fine. Such as the rear cover on a trans. But, there are some places that it's better if you use a gasket. I suggest spending the $5 on a roll of gasket material and making one for your creeper. Just my :TwoCents:

I think there is three seals, where there is one per side of the hi/lo selection lever, and the input shaft?

I have never personally gone through a creeper and rebuilt one. Mine is leaking from the vent because I over filled the sucker.

Get out to some plow days, tractor shows, and get-togethers. Heck, I've even hung around the pullers. They can help you tune your 108 in as well.

Yes, there is a seal on input and o-rings on the shift lever. I didn't think about those. But that would require some disassembly to change the o-rings. The gasket and seal can be changed easily.

I agree, if it's not broke, don't fix it! Another item to consider is installing a new coil pin ( to the coupler ), unless you feel what comes out is satisfactory. I really hate to be under a job, and have to get up to run to the parts store. It's about two dollars worth of good insurance, lol! Replacement gear lube, not to mention.

Gene

The service manual explains how to service the creeper.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=4644

They are not that complicated. :beerchug:
Just my 2 cents but you need to accept that you are dealing with a vintage tractor. Things will need attention. If it's overwhelming you may want to consider something newer. Flip side is that you can look at it as an educational experience. When it's finished you can look at what you have accomplished. Everyone of these things I work teaches me something new.

I don't think one small drip from the creeper gear in my opinion is worth a tear down. Sometimes you can open up a can of worms and it is not pretty. The way I look at it cubs are like old Harleys they always mark the spot they are sitting in. As long as you check fluids on somewhat of a regular basis you shoul be fine. :beerchug:

Ditto what Sam and Cubs-n-bxrs said.
If the tractor that you're working on is your regular purpose tractor, it needs to be ready to do the job when you need it. However,,,if you happen to have more than one and maybe one that you only have a couple hundo invested in, I say use that as your training class. You would no doubt pay a lot more to take a course at any tech school to learn basic stuff and they wouldn't be focusing on specifically Cubs.
Like most things in life it usually comes down to money. We hate to spend it without getting something in return. Taking things apart and seeing how they go together provides me with a lot more knowledge than reading about it, unless you're the type that can read and understand as well as doing and understand.
You only have so much time to invest in your interests. Some things you have to just hire done or know someone that can help, like Jonathan does with his brother and computers. Some you can afford to learn from doing it yourself. You'll have to decide which one of those options you'll take as each opportunity presents itself.
I learn best from doing it or using pictures, reading about it is just difficult for me. Have fun and like Sam said, these are old mechanical machines that need attention and they were not made to toss in the trash when something breaks like most of the new stuff is. You can fix them. Have fun!:biggrin2:

This one was leaking pretty bad. Rather then just getting new seals from lew I stepped it up and just bought his creeper :-) I think I'll pick up all new seals for this one I have and rebuild it for my uncle for a xmas gift.

I'm confused now. In your first post it was a small drip on the floor and now it turned into a leaking pretty bad situation.:bigthink:

I had just parked the tractor and it was the first drip in a new spot :) Looking at the creeper is was dripping a lot from that front seal. Still, it was the first small drip on the ground that got my attention. If it was just a small little drip I would have just moved on :)

I guess a creeper can't really have a very large leak........ it doesn't hold that much oil. :bigeyes:

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Most creepers leak out all of their oil one way or another. I've seen 'em burp out oil from the breather on the wide frame versions. Usually every creeper I've checked over the years is oil less. Find out where it's leaking, add oil, and if you add too much, it'll empty itself. :biggrin2: