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4SPEED 04-10-2012 09:26 PM

125 , Things Im Working On (Fixing)
 
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I think I found some more of the PO's cob work. I have tons of slop at the pivot point. I was going to shim it but found this piece (looks like) drive shaft in it with a 1/4" bolt holding it in. Id think it should be a bolt. right?

the spindels have play in them too. Im going to get some 1" shim bushings and drill the holes in the axle to fit the shim and press them in. that should take out the play in them.

I'll do the same to the rear hitch , the holes in the frame that the rod rubs on. the frame holes are egg shaped. might just weld them and re-drill the holes and make a new rod.

I installed the spring assist , thats a tight fit.
new pump filter , as it looked like it was put on with channel lock pliers. :bash2:
new fan and should installed

4SPEED 04-10-2012 09:36 PM

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a few more pics, I know how we love pics.

by the time im done fixing things , this cub will have all new paint on it . lol

105_Tom 04-10-2012 09:42 PM

Looks like progress, Doug! Keep it going, I need the inspiration to get my 125 split and clean up my hydro. I want to see how your spindle slop repairs go, too. Always wondered how to shim or fix the slop in the stems...

Jeff in Pa 04-10-2012 09:48 PM

The filter was so tight on my 125 that I bent my filter wrench. I had to borrow the spring one from a friend to get it off. I thought for sure my long handle rachet was going to bust.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...t/DCP_5230.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...t/DCP_5231.jpg

cub1450 04-10-2012 09:50 PM

That front axle pin is factory I don`t think they started putting bolts in them until the 82 series .

4SPEED 04-10-2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 105_Tom (Post 126221)
Looks like progress, Doug! Keep it going, I need the inspiration to get my 125 split and clean up my hydro. I want to see how your spindle slop repairs go, too. Always wondered how to shim or fix the slop in the stems...

I did the same here. I posted this a week ago. it worked good.

http://onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16948

4SPEED 04-10-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cub1450 (Post 126225)
That front axle pin is factory I don`t think they started putting bolts in them until the 82 series .

OK thanks , good to know. but Id think a bolt would work better

ACecil 04-10-2012 11:06 PM

Thanks for the pics, Doug!

cub1450 04-10-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 4SPEED (Post 126227)
OK thanks , good to know. but Id think a bolt would work better

They do.:beerchug:

Thats what all my cubs are getting when I get around to it.

jbrewer 04-11-2012 06:34 AM

Good work already! It's always "interesting" to observe shadetree work... less interesting to fix it sometimes!

John

Diz Jr. 04-11-2012 06:54 AM

Looking good 4SPEED
Great pictures also, I can never seem to get nice closeups like that :ThumbsUp:

Sugarmaker 04-11-2012 07:17 AM

Doug,
Great shots! I agree the close ups show me what mine looks like before I get into it. Makes me want to do a complete restoration on the one I have too.
Whats up with 125's they seem to be dominating the treads or is it just me? Looks like you will have new paint on all of it if you don't stop soon! Did you see the 125 on the front cover Cadet Connection! Wow is it sweet.
Your front axle looks very nice. All that body work you do shows!
Keep the pictures coming!
Its going to look great with the tiller on the back.
Regards,
Chris

4SPEED 04-11-2012 07:33 AM

LOL thanks. I almost forgot about the #1 tiller.

I need to change the gasket on the back cover. is there a way to save the trans fluid? it cost to much to change just because I need to do a gasket.

thought about clean milk jugs , then after a week or so change the filter.

Sugarmaker 04-11-2012 07:47 AM

Doug,
Unless you just put in a lot of new oil, here is my 2 cents. When I tore into the hydro on the 147 I drained the fluid with the intent on changing it anyway. So it went into the oil recycling. Here is what I found, 30 years of sludge in the bottom of the case. So I cleaned that out. Changed the filer and put in new hytran oil. You wont have to change it again for another 30 years?
Regards,
Chris

TheSaturnV 04-11-2012 10:41 AM

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Looking good 4SPD.

You might take a look at the bracket that the axle runs in, they tend to splay out.

Yosemite Sam 04-11-2012 01:28 PM

If you use a bolt through your front axle, you have to machine off about half of the head or it won't clear the sump on your oil pan.

4SPEED 04-11-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugarmaker (Post 126277)
Doug,
Unless you just put in a lot of new oil, here is my 2 cents. When I tore into the hydro on the 147 I drained the fluid with the intent on changing it anyway. So it went into the oil recycling. Here is what I found, 30 years of sludge in the bottom of the case. So I cleaned that out. Changed the filer and put in new hytran oil. You wont have to change it again for another 30 years?
Regards,
Chris

the guy I got it from said it had rework done to it , or something like that.
the oil still looks good (looks) im going to hold off on the gasket for now. its not leaking but a drip maybe every few day or so. takes a week to get a smaller then a dime size spot.

4SPEED 04-11-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSaturnV (Post 126301)
Looking good 4SPD.

You might take a look at the bracket that the axle runs in, they tend to splay out.

yes the back hole is a little. I got a bushing for it too.

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Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam (Post 126332)
If you use a bolt through your front axle, you have to machine off about half of the head or it won't clear the sump on your oil pan.

I have no sump in the pan. well dont think there is. I test fitted the bolt and have no issues that I see.
would a dealer replacment engine have a flat oil pan?

I'll have pics of it installed tonight.

4SPEED 04-11-2012 02:26 PM

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pics of the bushing I put in. there is still a very very little bit of play in it. my guess is because the spindle is worn down to a little too. but its more the 75% better then it was.

added a few other pics that I did.

ACecil 04-11-2012 04:16 PM

Good job! :beerchug:

Matt G. 04-11-2012 04:19 PM

If that isn't a deep sump oil pan, you have a K241 and not a K301. Somebody might have turned that into a 105 at some point.

Sugarmaker 04-11-2012 04:38 PM

Doug,
This 125 is really looking all cleaned up and shiny! Nice work!
Regards,
Chris

4SPEED 04-11-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G. (Post 126361)
If that isn't a deep sump oil pan, you have a K241 and not a K301. Somebody might have turned that into a 105 at some point.

pic of the tag and the pan. would of the flywheel cover fit other kohlers?

4SPEED 04-11-2012 06:58 PM

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more pics

the shim is a machine shim 18ga. it took some doing to get it in , but shes tight now. the only play in it now is the bearings in the wheels. I'll change them out when my try ribs get here.

and a before and after of the wheels and tires.

jbrewer 04-11-2012 07:07 PM

Nice!
 
You do really good work ...and quickly!

That tractor really has spent some time pulling things, to hog out that towing pin hole, hasn't it?

You're really rocking in that thing. I bet that 125 is glad it landed in your shop :-)

John

EricR 04-11-2012 07:55 PM

Very nice job there Doug!
Yeah when I get around to fixing 102-D I'm going to have to do the same with the front end as you did as the spindles are VERY sloppy and you just gave me the perfect fix, thanks.

jbrewer 04-11-2012 08:34 PM

Spindle
 
How did you fixture your axle to make sure you drilled the oversize hole exactly parallel to the original bore?

John

zippy1 04-11-2012 08:35 PM

Coming along nicely Doug.:beerchug:

CADplans 04-11-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 4SPEED (Post 126383)
more pics

the shim is a machine shim 18ga. it took some doing to get it in , but shes tight now. the only play in it now is the bearings in the wheels. I'll change them out when my try ribs get here.

and a before and after of the wheels and tires.

Your progress looks great!!

I see the bolt is now in place holding the front axle.

I hate to back you us a step, but, I have seen others just tighten that bolt to take out the slop of the frame to axle fit.

Without the shim, the axle/frame joint will be slightly stronger.

darkminion_17 04-11-2012 09:18 PM

Looks like a nice job on the 3 point.Your motor has a flat oil pan so it is a K241

4SPEED 04-11-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CADplans (Post 126408)
Your progress looks great!!

I see the bolt is now in place holding the front axle.

I hate to back you us a step, but, I have seen others just tighten that bolt to take out the slop of the frame to axle fit.

Without the shim, the axle/frame joint will be slightly stronger.

I made sure the shim was the same size as the area on the axle.

4SPEED 04-11-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrewer (Post 126405)
How did you fixture your axle to make sure you drilled the oversize hole exactly parallel to the original bore?

John

I jiged it up in a mill , its a old one from the 50's and the guy just uses it for a drill press. its still tight enough to do what I needed.

Matt G. 04-11-2012 10:20 PM

The (earlier) K301 and K241 flywheel shrouds are interchangeable. I think the later K301 engines, i.e. QLs, may have had the larger flywheel, but I can't remember.

4SPEED 04-11-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 126413)
Looks like a nice job on the 3 point.Your motor has a flat oil pan so it is a K241

I guess I'll be looking for a k301 or bigger next. what engine is in a 129 ? I know of one close by. the 149 behind it is spent.

4SPEED 04-11-2012 10:30 PM

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last pic for now. still need the spindle for the deck to show up in the mail.

darkminion_17 04-11-2012 10:37 PM

The 129 has a k 301 in it.

4SPEED 04-11-2012 10:46 PM

cool , thanks. I'll go over there and look at it tomorrow (check the pan first) then see if it'll fire.

any one need a really good running K241

ACecil 04-12-2012 11:18 AM

Doug, your 125 is looking good!

4SPEED 04-12-2012 05:04 PM

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hay,, the spindle showed up today... I got the deck on and the 682 did some tilling around a tree.

time to get back to work on the 582. I miss the O'l girl.

ACecil 04-12-2012 10:31 PM

Thanks for the great pics!


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