Tires and wheels...
 

Hi all, I'm new here and my 124 is basically a workhorse...I need to put the widest and tallest big bites on the back (have some mud to drag cut downs through, and barely making it). Do I need 10" wides, and what/where should I order?
Are the carlisle tru.....(can't remember) good?
Thanks

Are you running wheel weights? I have seen 26" tires on those BUT if you are in mud I think you would tear up your fenders running them.

Don't laugh, but my son (11 yr old)couldn't drag a load of dirt up the hill so I made a quick fix....80lbs of concrete in buckets with pvc to leave holes...so, I have 40lbs per wheel.
I'm usins the stock 6"? wheels, and the stock firestones.

Got 23 /10.5 x 12 turfs on my 1250. Went to a fun tractor pull, stone boat deal and couldn't move the sled at all without weights. I added a LOT of weight and easily pulled 1600 lbs without slipping much. Moral of the story...a bunch- o- weight is a good thing for traction. I had a set of stock simplicity weights, a pair of Case VAC weights, and 1.5 wheels worth of 9N ford weight halves draped over the tunnel cover. By the way...the cheapie trailer I was towing the tractor to the pull with didn't apprecialte all the extra weight either.. :biggrin2.gif:

thanks for the info. can I still buy those rims new?
And nobody has any advice to give on tires? I was looking at the carlise trupower (I think) because they look like they have a real aggresive bite.
I'm haulin cut timber through woods and a creek with a muddy bank...so far so good, but I'm limited to the amount I load on my steel sled becuz traction prob.

Have you checked Tucker tire's ebay listings?? He's got excellent pricing.. I think unless you actually go get professional pulling tires , ag tires will all be pretty much the same for your uses.

I have never actualy owned a pair of small tractor ags, but I do have a set on order from Tucker. 10.50x 12 23 high You also could get 26 12 x 12 ags.. The taller tires will take more power to turn.....

eastonct124,
I recommend ags all around. What I have done with one tractor, so far, is to have the tires foamed filled. Here are my perceived benefits. No flats, no leaks, 50lbs extra weight per 23x8.50x12 tire, no load limit. While mine are 4 ply, I could have gotten away with 2. The down side. No cushion from air and when you finally wear out the tire you have to cut it off the rim and clean the foam off. But if you think that you might actually wear out a set of ags you could install a tube first. Then the foam will be stuck to that and not the wheel. I got an extra 25 lbs per wheel up front with 4.80x4.00x8s.

What did you have to pay to get the foam fill? I did have a bud with a Kubota that wore thru the front tires and it was riding around on teh foam until he decided he needed traction..but that tractor was worked hard, broke often, and always put away wet.

:bs:What's that foam made out of, lead? You can't get 50lbs. in an 8.50 with washer fluid...

Matt I did have a brochure explaining everything but I must have pitched it after I got them filled. I go by their shop on my way to the hardware store. I'll stop and get one. I don't want to misrepresent the product. But really 50# per wheel. I also took their advise and put it in new tires. I'm about ready to get new rubber for my #1 100 and they will get filled also.

I think I paid about $218.00 to remove the old tires mount the new ones with new valve stems and the foam. 2 4.80s and 2 8.50s. Notice there isn't tires listed there. But look how much 2 set of wheel weights would cost. And that's only on the rear. And I love knowing I have no leaks and will never get a flat.

Every mower I have in Texas has lots of John Deere tire sealer in the tires, and still some of them leak down if you don't position the big holes at the bottom. That foam sounds like just the ticket in Mesquite thorn country. I think I will try it out on my Fergusun TO-20 fronts first.

WOW...that's expensive. I'm sticking with tubes and washer fluid. $30 for a pair of tubes and about another $30 for the washer fluid... At 21 cents a pound, washer fluid is much cheaper than iron weights.

I used the concrete wheel weight approach for adding cheap, removable mass to my 1650. I found that a cardboard tube used for making footings or foundations is a great way to go. A 10" tube was a perfect fit in the rim and the resulting concrete weight was 35 lbs. At only 5.5 inches tall, I could have extended the weight further, but wanted it flush with the rim. As soon as I figure out how to post pictures, I'll share the process.

Matt it does cost a couple dollars for the foam. But it will NEVER leak out. Where I live in Da Hood there is enough glass, nails and what ever some kid or crack-head can use for a weapon laying around. So I get weight and a real piece of mind knowing that my tires will stay round. It's a jungle out there.

Hey eastonct124!!!! How's it going good buddy!!!!

To answer your question about the rear tires, it all comes down to your own preference. But I can give you a few choices of tires that have an aggressive bite to them. To begin with there are the Carlisle Tru Power tires with its aggressive bite. Excellent tire and are being used on a lot of garden tractor pullers. Second there is a tire called the Highlifter Outlaw Tire and it's only available in a 6 ply tire. It's was designed for the ATV's. But I have seen a few Cub Cadet Super Garden Tractors use them as there rear tires. And they seem to work very well in all conditions. Third, you could also choose the Firestone Flotation 23 G-1 ag tire. Which by the way is the tires that I have on the OL' Girl. They work very well and are self cleaning tires also. All three tires mentioned here are all available in the 26x12x12 size, considering if that's the size you want your rear tires to be. As for the rims. You can fit a 26x12x12 tire on a 8.50 wide rim. And I speak from experience. I have the 26x12x12 Firestone tires installed on a pair of 12x8.50 wide rims. And they fit perfectly. So you will not need to buy another pair of rims.Not unless you really want to. I'll post some pics of each tire so you can compare and maybe decide on what tire you'll exactly need to get the job done. I hope this helps in one way or another. Take care good buddy.

MATT

Highlifter Outlaw 6 ply ATV tire
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/c...atv-tires1.jpg

Carlisle Tru Power tire. This tire is available in 4,6,and 8 plys in the size of 26x12x12.
http://www.lesschwab.com/tires/farm/...epowerr1lg.jpg

26x12x12 Firestone Flotation 23 G-1 4 ply tire.
http://www.lesschwab.com/tires/farm/...ire_23g1lg.jpg

Here's a pic of the OL' Girl with the 26x12x12 Firestone Flotation 23 G-1 4 ply tires.
http://photos.cubfest.com/albums/use...10267/Cub2.jpg

Cub61-

If he's got 6-12s on the back like he says he thinks he does (he should probably verify that ;)) then he'll need wider rims.

Actually, I don't think 26" tires will fit under the fenders on a 124...I tried to put 25" tall tires on my loader 124, and there was maybe 1/4" of clearance between the fender and the tire. That is not enough.

Any suggestions for tire vendors? Tucker was mentioned, but I didn't find anything on ebay. Any experience with Miller?

MFP8055,

I have bought from Miller's. Great all the way. I drove by their store about 3 or 4 weeks ago. They had a lot of business.

Here is the current flyer for the tire fill.

if you are looking for atv tires for your cub, check out:

www.rockymountainatv.com

bought tires for my honda trx450r and saved $10-20 per tire

Hey guys!!

Now here's my question. I have 26 x12-12 tires on my 1882. Do I have to stay with the 12" tires? Or can I go to 10.5"? Are there any advantages to the 12" wide tires?

Man, I guess I should have said QUESTIONS

I'd stick with the 26-12-12's. Any smaller diameter will slow the tractor down, as the supers have a slightly different reduction ratio than the standard GTs. In addition, it'll just plain look stupid with smaller tires on it.

the wider the tire, the less psi is put to the ground, i.e. less ground compaction, but you also have more tread put to the ground. thats why farmers run tracks,duals or even triples on their big tractors. More traction, yet less ground compaction. i know in the mud people want more tread, but in other conditions less tread is in order. :TwoCents:

Thanks for the input everyone.

Matt G.: I wouldn't ever change the diameter, I agree it would look silly!

MATT: Thanks for the input! I could put a 10.5 tire on a 12" rim?

placeebo effect: If I understand correctly, the wider tire better for turf, the narrow tire better for traction in the snow and dirt i.e plowing, maybe?

The 26-12-12 tire uses an 8.5" wide wheel. So does the 23-10.5-12. However, I don't think you're going to be able to find a 26-10.5-12. I have never heard of/seen that size.

You want an wide tire when you want don't want to sink, i.e. mowing, muddy terrain, etc. and a narrower tire for snow removal and sometimes for dirt plowing...depends on the conditions somewhat.

not a problem, my dad and I farmed up here in the northern part of minnesota for many years. and used many different sized tires. now is the time of year we have to dodge the sugar beet trucks and the bean haulers.

Now I fully understand. Thanks Matt.:beerchug:

Thanks for all the advice. As much as I'd love the 26" tires, I want the clearance so I'm going with 23x10.5-12...but I will need some 8.5" wide rims.
If anybody has a pair they'd like to sell let me know.

the rims can easily be found on ebay. if not, check the sponsors of the site also

I found a good, but unexpected source for tires. I planned on getting the Carlisle super lugs, so I did a web search for vendors. It turned up Summit Racing as a source. I've bought car stuff from these guys for a long time and they're great. Turns out they carry the full line of Carlisle products. The tires were a great price, even before I found an on-line coupon for 10% off the order. Shipping for all four donuts was only $11.95. Check them out if you're looking for rubber.