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dieseldan123 04-18-2011 02:40 PM

When was this O made?
 
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After spending the weekend at my grand parents place i took some pics of his cubs. Im have trouble trying to find out when it was made. I did find the number stamped on the rear end, and the spendles look different than those ive seen with other members. Its all original (no pun intended :biggrin2:). When my grand dad bought it he was working at the IH dealership and i think is the second owner. Just interested in what you guys think, and thanks! sorry for the pic quality, my phone could only do so much on the dark side of the barn.

ksanders 04-18-2011 03:24 PM

That isn't the serial number. The number is on the right side of the casting between the frame and rear end. Seeing the front spindles and no hole in the frame for a creeper it's probably in the first half of 1961 production though. There's a good chance it's a 4 digit serial number too (doesn't have to be though).

dieseldan123 04-18-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ksanders (Post 68852)
That isn't the serial number. The number is on the right side of the casting between the frame and rear end. Seeing the front spindles and no hole in the frame for a creeper it's probably in the first half of 1961 production though. There's a good chance it's a 4 digit serial number too (doesn't have to be though).

Thanks i had a feeling that wasnt the serial number. It was the only number i could find at the time and when ever i moved wood out of the way more would fall in its place. Next time im there ill make sure to get the right number! Could there also be a chance that it might be a prototype? And why is the oil bath air filter blue?

ksanders 04-18-2011 03:41 PM

I'd say no to a prototype because I think I remember the prototypes having subtle changes here and there that were made before production. I don't remember what they all were. As for the air breather, repainted maybe? From a different brand that used the same breather? Now there is a slim chance you've run into a 3 digit Original? I'm just speculating things now. Even a prototype would have a serial number though.

Methos 04-18-2011 03:56 PM

I don't see a creeper hole so that makes it a early 61. The foot rest do they have holes in them? If they are flat without any holes it's not a protype O. I have no clue why the oil bath is blue. Kevin would know more about it then I would. No matter which version of O it looks to be a great looking tractor. Any chance you'll end up with it?

red56turbo 04-18-2011 05:49 PM

Nice find. Love the barn finds. The serial would be stamped on the right side. Early front axle and collared spindles. No creeper hole. Blue air cleaner was probably a PO repaint or from something else. What was the engine serial number. If it was a prototype, the engine may have a prototype serial number unless it was replaced.

Duke,
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the production O's have footrests with holes stamped in them? Paul Bell owned a prototype, serial number 409 and the foot rests were smooth. They changed them to stamped holes to improve traction when your feet were wet. Foot slippage would hurt, especially with the shifter where it is, OUCH!:biggrin2: I think Timmy DeLooza owns the prototype now. I'm not too familiar with early O's serials 501 to four digits. It would be very interesting to see the serial number of this one.

Methos 04-18-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by red56turbo (Post 68879)
Nice find. Love the barn finds. The serial would be stamped on the right side. Early front axle and collared spindles. No creeper hole. Blue air cleaner was probably a PO repaint or from something else. What was the engine serial number. If it was a prototype, the engine may have a prototype serial number unless it was replaced.

Duke,
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the production O's have footrests with holes stamped in them? Paul Bell owned a prototype, serial number 409 and the foot rests were smooth. They changed them to stamped holes to improve traction when your feet were wet. Foot slippage would hurt, especially with the shifter where it is, OUCH!:biggrin2: I think Timmy DeLooza owns the prototype now. I'm not too familiar with early O's serials 501 to four digits. It would be very interesting to see the serial number of this one.

Josh that was my thinking as well. I'm hoping one of the true guru's to step in and add to my knowledge base.

JayBrd 04-18-2011 08:41 PM

Early '61's had collars on the spindles and no holes in the foot rests, such as yours does. Also they did not have the access slot in the tower for the steering adjustment screw (right side). Now depending on who you talk to when they switched to the holed foot rests, and bolted spindles varies and also some 4 digit tractors do have the bolts due to replacement of worn parts. Also the prototypes had an hour meter installed on the lower part of the pedistal on one side.

juniors1282 04-18-2011 09:37 PM

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This is mine an early 4 digit with the collard spindle's. You have to look close but their hiding under there :biggrin2:. Mine was built in March of 61'. Hope you can pull it out of there and save it, good luck.

_DX3_ 04-18-2011 09:49 PM

Hey, my 784 has a blankie just like that, LOL. :biggrin2:

Tractor2nv 04-18-2011 10:41 PM

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Ok CubNutz remember the 3 digit I seen this weekend and here is one also to digest, brake return spring on the 62 I brought home...mounted on the brake rod. Ever seen that before?...back to the 3 digit,you see no oval cut out for a creeper but the 5 digit I brought home has a cut out.

dieseldan123 04-19-2011 12:48 AM

Wow! thanks for the fast replies guys! :bigeyes: :ThumbsUp: I hope to get it and do a complete factory restoration on this one. As far as i know the air cleaner is the original color for the motor (quick call to my grand dad confirmed that) The only mods done by the previous owner was access holes cut in the steering tower on both the right and left side. Unfortunatly i didnt get any pics of the engine serial number and got fed up with moving crap to uncover it. All i know is this thing is rocking the collared spindles, original IH belts with all emblems attached.

Ill be making a return trip to visit with them with in the next two months. maybe i can get my grand dad to tell me the numbers on the frame next time i call! :biggrin2: :beerchug:

dieseldan123 07-16-2011 09:27 AM

Ok guys i found the serial number to this cub original. its 10020.

So that would place as to when it was made? Ill get pics once i can find the best amount of lighting to get good pics. Thanks!

Cubcrazy 07-16-2011 02:31 PM

Looks like late May 61.

juniors1282 07-16-2011 02:55 PM

Yea last day of production for the month of May!!

dieseldan123 07-16-2011 08:13 PM

Now thats pretty cool! Still hoping to perform a full restoration on it some day. kind of exciting that its the last one made in the month of may!!!:biggrin2: :beerchug:

Methos 07-16-2011 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dieseldan123 (Post 82990)
Now thats pretty cool! Still hoping to perform a full restoration on it some day. kind of exciting that its the last one made in the month of may!!!:biggrin2: :beerchug:

That is pretty cool!

mmzullo 07-16-2011 09:41 PM

I own a 3 digit 7XX and it has the thin axle and collar spindles . Has the holes in the foot rest, no slot in the tower for steering adjustment and no creeper hole. I have a 1xxxx O it has a creeper that was dealer installed that had a creeper holed drilled. I also have a couple later O's that has the slot and creeper slot.

I don't think the brake spring isa factory item but a PO/dealer repair.

darkminion_17 07-16-2011 09:45 PM

Mike you are very thorough,Don't forget the iced tea..

mmzullo 07-16-2011 09:47 PM

Already made and in the fridge.

Methos 07-16-2011 10:00 PM

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Already made and in the fridge.

But is it the good southern sweet tea?:biggrin2:

darkminion_17 07-16-2011 10:02 PM

who you calling a sweetie??

ACecil 07-16-2011 10:51 PM

Oh yeah, it has to be sweet tea! :biggrin2:

Methos 07-16-2011 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 83004)
who you calling a sweetie??

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Originally Posted by ACecil (Post 83013)
Oh yeah, it has to be sweet tea! :biggrin2:

Lew it has to be Sweet tea not sweetie tea!:biggrin2:

dieseldan123 07-16-2011 11:19 PM

Sweet tea or nothing guys, lol! :biggrin2:

mmzullo 07-17-2011 06:44 PM

It's was green tea.


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