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Old 04-19-2010, 09:03 AM
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Default New Project - 442 tiller and rear PTO

I got the tiller and pto home yesterday after a 5 hour round trip. It was pretty interesting off loading that behemoth from a Ford Super Duty with my lovely (& small) wife as a helper. I didn't have time to get any pics yet, as I had to get cleaned up to go visit a very close friend in the hospital recovering from brain surgery. (Doing extremely well and should be released today!) Anyway, it seems very complete, as I have been studying the parts diagram on partstree for both the tiller and PTO and in very good condition. I'm hoping to spend some time with it over the next few days.

Does anyone have a manual for the tiller, and/or recommended fluids and capacities?

I'm going to order an aftermarket 3 point hitch today made like the original for the rear pto. I'll be taking lots of pics for those who are interested and hope it all works out well!!

On a final note, I really screwed up yesterday. I noticed that there were 2 (yeah, 2) 1872's in this guys yard. One was complete (and sold), the other was the donor of the tiller, pto & 3 pt (I just missed it). The donor had a new replacement kohler engine, no driveshaft, dual hydraulics, power steering, good grill & all the sheetmetal (except for the engine shrouds). I didn't have a way to get it home, so I had to pass. I've been kicking myself since.
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Old 04-19-2010, 11:32 AM
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Looking forward to your pics, toyman! Glad your friend is doing well.
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Old 04-19-2010, 09:28 PM
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A few quick pics from earlier today.

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Rear PTO & Tiller Shaft



Rear Plate for Alum rear end Looks easy enough to fab up the mounts on my CI plate.





I have a little cleaning & lubing to do. I wasn't aware that the rear PTO switch, wasn't really a rear PTO switch. It's actually a selector switch to choose the front or rear pto and the front PTO switch will activate the one chosen. I'm glad I got the guy to get it off the tractor for me before I left. I'll have a little wiring to figure out also

Now I'm just waiting on confirmation of my order for the 3 point.

Better pics when I dig in to this in the near future.
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A few quick pics from earlier today.

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Rear PTO & Tiller Shaft

Rear Plate for Alum rear end Looks easy enough to fab up the mounts on my CI plate.



I have a little cleaning & lubing to do. I wasn't aware that the rear PTO switch, wasn't really a rear PTO switch. It's actually a selector switch to choose the front or rear pto and the front PTO switch will activate the one chosen. I'm glad I got the guy to get it off the tractor for me before I left. I'll have a little wiring to figure out also
Now I'm just waiting on confirmation of my order for the 3 point.

Better pics when I dig in to this in the near future.

AHHHHH that's not the way mine is......

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Old 04-20-2010, 06:34 AM
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Scott - how does yours work? That info is basically straight from the PTO manual.

Page 15 of the 433 Rear PTO manual calls it a "Directional Switch". I'm not married to connecting it this way, just what I found. There is also a "Wire Lead" (3 wires) provided with the kit, that I don't have and looks to provide power thru one wire and then the appropriate switch wire to the PTO's.
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:43 AM
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Your wire harness should have the option built in so it shouldn't be an issue.

Mine has two independent PTO switches, one does not effect the other.


BTW I rewired another tractor this last weekend and I used a 'protected' automotive switch for the pto.....and after mowing with it last night I'll have it NO other way from now on...absolutely hassle free.

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Old 04-20-2010, 09:53 AM
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Scott - you are very good for my post count!:biggrin2.gif:

OK - what is a 'Protected' automotive switch? (Brand & PN would be great!)

I would guess that they didn't want the ability to have both PTO's engaged at the same time, but I'm not very concerned about that as I'm the only operator and wouldn't have my deck on while tilling anyway. But, I'll have to check out my harness to see what I have and decide from there.
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Now that's a tiller! Congrats!
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Your wiring harness should be already wired for the rear pto. The plugs for the switch should be under the dash. The plug for the safety switch should have a jumper wire in it already. There is only one wire for the pto clutch and you should be able to find it at the rear of the tractor under the fender pan. Or at least that's how my 982 is wired.

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AJ - thanks for the info! I'll take a look tonite. I would have started last nite, but we had a 'microburst' last friday. I bought a trampoline for my daughter for her birthday (toygirl) the Sunday before. The 86 mph winds took the trampoline, ran it into a drystacked stone wall, then the house, and it left the carnage for about a 1000'. Thankfully there was minimal damage, we somehow recovered all the pieces, and I got it back together last evening.

My 3 point hitch was supposed to ship yesterday. I'm hoping it makes it here by Saturday, but it probably won't be until early next week.
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