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Old 05-09-2011, 10:46 PM
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Default PTO won't turn off, even when starting

Weirdest thing on my 2284 super. The PTO won't turn off. I had to remove the belt so it doesn't spin mower deck while trying to start. the plate/disk moves in and out when I toggle pto switch but pulley keeps going either way. I disconnected the wire harness leading to PTO and still it runs. I've only had it a few weeks so I don't know it's history.

Any idea's?

this is my PTO:

http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=c...&dn=0041300013
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:39 PM
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Simple answer is the bearing in the pto is froze. You need to either replace the pto or tear it apart and replace the bearing.

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Old 05-10-2011, 08:55 AM
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Thanks AJ,

Since a new PTO is about $300 I'd like to try to fix it. I've looked in the resource section but don't know how applicable they are to that PTO.
Is that bearing hard to get too? I have pulled the various PTO parts off the drive shaft-
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Old 05-10-2011, 03:28 PM
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Simple answer is the bearing in the pto is froze. You need to either replace the pto or tear it apart and replace the bearing.

AJ
If the bearings are similiar to the red balls in this diagram:

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30

Then I am out of luck because there is nothingn like that on this PTO, there is nothing to adjust and since its probably mid-90's or later I'm guessing it's throw-away, which is likely what I'll do with it after trying a few more times.

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Old 05-11-2011, 12:17 AM
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Well AJ I have to take back what I said. I spent some more time with it and found the bearing. at first it wasn't budging but after some wd40 and taps with the hammer and punch it slowly started moving. did that over and over and it is spinning smoothly now.

Should I pack some grease in there before I re-install in a couple days?

Thanks again! here are some pics!
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If you can find the numbers on it, I would try to replace it. I bet it will probably lock up on you again in the future. You can check here for bearings. http://vxb.com/

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Old 05-11-2011, 07:54 AM
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Pack it with grease put the seal back in and use it .
Then order a new one as they are only $6-8.00
They are a 6206 double seal. when it fails again, then you have one to fix it with. I have done that many times to get through planting or harvest then fix the equipment properly in the off season.
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:58 AM
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I think there were some numbers on the dust cover, I'll check it out. Thanks for that website and all your help.

Get this pto fixed and I can move on to whatever is next on this 2284, everytime I fix one thing, I find something else! makes me appreciate the 1872 which is hardly any trouble in comparison. This site has been great though, I've had no experience with tractors until about a year ago.

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Old 05-11-2011, 08:15 AM
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something like this:
http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/PROD/Kit9707

under 10 bucks, cheapest thing I've bought for this tractor since spark plugs!
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Quick update-

Greased bearing and re-installed PTO, working well. we'll see for how long.

Appreciate all the help!
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