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Old 06-22-2018, 06:30 AM
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I dont know how to take it apart or what to look for once I do. But I can read. Are there instructions?
You just showed me the diagram a couple posts ago. That's really all you need. Well that, some skill, and maybe a couple parts.
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I dont know how to take it apart or what to look for once I do. But I can read. Are there instructions?
Does this help?
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Yes the rod is moving the center, but even when I disconnected the rod and disengage the center completely its still not moving much at all.

My rod is undoubtedly out of adjustment, but shouldn't it spin freely when its disconnected? I'm happy to take pictures but it would help if I knew what you were looking for. I assume you know what the parts look like already.

But here's a pic with the rod disconnected and connected

using the diagram here

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9

I'd say the pto brake seems wonky. Its wobbly anyway, and doesn't seem to fit the grooves that are presumably meant for it. But I've never messed with it before so I dont know how its supposed to look or feel
A day or two before you take it apart, soak the screws in PB Blaster to make it easier to take it apart.

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Old 06-22-2018, 09:54 AM
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Do I need a PTO gauge or any other special tools here? Cuz I don't have one.
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Do I need a PTO gauge or any other special tools here? Cuz I don't have one.
Yep.
But you can buy a gauge for a few bucks.

Man you have a lot of issues with your tractor..... How do know that the PTO isn't working if you don't have a starter on the tractor?
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I have a new s/g on my tractor.

I have the pto brake disc off and am soaking the screws behind it, but I can clearly see that the shaft/bolt the disc is c-ringed to is worn down behind the c-ring and will have to be replaced. This is why the disc was wobbly. Although the center of the disc looks fine I'm guessing its probably worn from wobbling and will need to be replaced too.

I'm not clear from the diagram which part that worn shaft/bolt is. Would it be #10, special machine bolt? Would this wear and wobbling be a likely cause to all my problems or is there probably another issue I haven't found yet?
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Until you get it off, speculating on what is worn is a waste of bandwidth here. But since I am already typing, what you're describing sounds to me like the bearing is shot. Which, to get to, you must remove 2 sets of 3 allen screws (parts 05A and 05B on the chart but not shown in the drawing). They are down in the three holes on the outer edge of the disc, and those are the screws you should be soaking. No need to be turning those special machine bolts just yet.
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Until you get it off, speculating on what is worn is a waste of bandwidth here. But since I am already typing, what you're describing sounds to me like the bearing is shot. Which, to get to, you must remove 2 sets of 3 allen screws (parts 05A and 05B on the chart but not shown in the drawing). They are down in the three holes on the outer edge of the disc, and those are the screws you should be soaking. No need to be turning those special machine bolts just yet.
Added note for Wayne:
Those set screws are in the pulley item 05 in the diagram. Located in holes that are 120 degrees apart on the pulley perimeter.
Before soaking those holes with PB Blaster, probe them with an ice pick and wiggle it around to dislodge mud daubers, dirt or anything in there.
Then blow the holes out with compressed air.
Then soak two holes when they are straddling high noon with the PB.
Let it soak a day, rotate until the untreated hole shows up and soak that hole. Repeat above another day.
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Added note for Wayne:
Those set screws are in the pulley item 05 in the diagram. Located in holes that are 120 degrees apart on the pulley perimeter.
Ahhh. I was soaking the Phillips screws on the pulley face.

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Before soaking those holes with PB Blaster, probe them with an ice pick and wiggle it around to dislodge mud daubers, dirt or anything in there.
Then blow the holes out with compressed air.
Then soak two holes when they are straddling high noon with the PB.
Let it soak a day, rotate until the untreated hole shows up and soak that hole. Repeat above another day.[/QUOTE]


Okey doke. Good thing I won the cheapo Rally push mower in the local auction yesteday even though it wasn't the one I wanted to win, and good thing it sort of runs. I have a feeling I wont be using the Cub again this week.
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Until you get it off, speculating on what is worn is a waste of bandwidth here. But since I am already typing, what you're describing sounds to me like the bearing is shot. Which, to get to, you must remove 2 sets of 3 allen screws (parts 05A and 05B on the chart but not shown in the drawing). They are down in the three holes on the outer edge of the disc, and those are the screws you should be soaking. No need to be turning those special machine bolts just yet.

I can see that the center shaft (or whatever its called) is worn where the disc rides with my naked eye. Its visibly narrower behind the c-clip groove. I hope that's not the crankshaft.

I measured the disc under my dissecting microscope and the center hole its very slightly out of round. Not enough to see with the naked eye but maybe a 5th of a millimeter.

But I will plunge onward and inward.
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