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Old 01-29-2019, 07:10 PM
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Default 1641 dies after sudden stop

First post here, great resource!
My problem: While plowing snow with my 1641, it dies (and won't restart for quite some time) if I come to a jerky, sudden stop.

Is there a safety mechanism which engages the solenoid when the tractor experiences sudden stops/rollovers, etc?

It's not the seat safety switch, the PO jumped that before I bought it.

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Old 01-30-2019, 05:39 AM
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First, welcome to OCC.........

The 1641 has a Magneto Ignition System. Your descriptions sounds like some sort of electrical issue. With that in mind, in order for the Engine to shut down, the Ignition Switch grounds the Kill Wire. Thus, it sounds like a wire is grounding out.

As a suggestion and as a test......... Remove the Yellow Kill Wire from either the (A) Back of the Ignition Switch, or (B) from the connector where the Yellow Wire exits the Engine Shrouds. If the engine stays running, then the problem is in that circuit (to include Ignition Switch). Remember, that Yellow Wire has to be grounded to stop the engine.

Once you figure out the problem, replace the wiring back to original.
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Old 01-30-2019, 06:44 AM
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Thanks, Roland, I'll check the wire.
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Old 02-02-2019, 07:50 AM
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You were right, Roland. The battery was sitting loose in the battery box, the battery box was being held by one bolt to the frame. Fixed, and she purrs like a kitten!

Thanks!
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Old 02-02-2019, 11:16 AM
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Does not sound like you fixed the problem. Was the battery cable loose?
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:33 AM
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My 1641 used to do that quite a bit when plowing. When it happened you had to run it on partial choke. The carb was getting gummed up and also the solenoid that did the fuel shut off was a bit problematic. I bypassed the solenoid and did a carb cleaning. It hasn't run this well since the nineties.
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Old 02-06-2019, 11:15 AM
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Does not sound like you fixed the problem. Was the battery cable loose?
Agreed. The loose battery was tugging/grounding/shorting...something. The battery terminals were tight and clean. I traced every single wire and cleaned/tightened each connection. I also removed about 50 yards of electric tape used by the PO to "fix" some splices, and then replaced the "twist and tape" splices with actual connectors. So, somewhere in the process it seems I may have fixed something. Then again, maybe not. Time will tell.
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:32 PM
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My 1641 used to do that quite a bit when plowing. When it happened you had to run it on partial choke. The carb was getting gummed up and also the solenoid that did the fuel shut off was a bit problematic. I bypassed the solenoid and did a carb cleaning. It hasn't run this well since the nineties.
I'd done a good cleaning of the carb/fuel tank and replaced the filter and all fuel lines, trying to fix the issue. She ran fine again for a while, until I started banging into blocks of frozen snow. Now I know it was an electrical short, and now I can bang into ice blocks at will.
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I'd done a good cleaning of the carb/fuel tank and replaced the filter and all fuel lines, trying to fix the issue. She ran fine again for a while, until I started banging into blocks of frozen snow. Now I know it was an electrical short, and now I can bang into ice blocks at will.
Better you than me. We've moved on to mud season here in Ohio now. The most wonderful time of year! Not.
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I'm from Arkansas, this is my first winter in the NE. I can tell you, I'll take mud over this snow. Actually, mud is what we'll have once the snow melts away. At least my wife doesn't expect me to shovel the mud.
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