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Old 10-19-2020, 02:29 PM
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It really is a simple design, and easy to repair. I was able to get the bearings at Purvis, and one of the vendors supplied the spindle shaft as good used until for a couple bucks.

I would inspect the timing belt carefully, that is the 'weak link' of the system, and would cause serious harm, even injury if it goes out during high speed operation. Also, get the torque wrench on the spindle nuts, and make sure there is no play in the key and keyway. Clean, tight, then greased, and ready to go.

The bearings I got were from Germany, made by SKF. I would not recommend Chinese bearings for this application.
Heh I wouldn't recommend most Chinese things for an old Cub. Except maybe a carburetor, those seem to work fine. The belt does indeed seem to be the weak link, being if you hit a rock and knock a spindle out of time, well you might wanna shut your tractor right off ASAP before you break a blade. Even so, you are correct about it being a very simple design. There really isn't much to it, as you described above. Even the deck clutch design is super simple, much less complicated than the narrow frame clutches. I believe I can get good bearings from the local Cub dealership, if not there then the local TSC. Again, thank you very much for the info!

Actually I have one last question, do you know what size the deck is? Or the length of the engine-to-deck belt? Those are the two things I don't know, and I definitely need a new belt for that.
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Old 10-19-2020, 02:55 PM
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Deck is 38". CC Specialties has this for the belt:

Cub Cadet Original PTO to Deck Belt 1/2" x 82" PN/ IH 464362 R1 USE 954-0226 Fits 38" 2 spindle timed deck.

There are two V sheaves down in the front on the lower cross shaft. Replace those bearings at the same time you do the deck. Press-fit into the sheave. When you tighten the cross shaft with the new belt, use a pry bar on the shaft for tension. If you don't, it'll slip, then the belt will vibrate and may come off one of the V sheaves.(ask me how I know!)
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Deck is 38". CC Specialties has this for the belt:

Cub Cadet Original PTO to Deck Belt 1/2" x 82" PN/ IH 464362 R1 USE 954-0226 Fits 38" 2 spindle timed deck.

There are two V sheaves down in the front on the lower cross shaft. Replace those bearings at the same time you do the deck. Press-fit into the sheave. When you tighten the cross shaft with the new belt, use a pry bar on the shaft for tension. If you don't, it'll slip, then the belt will vibrate and may come off one of the V sheaves.(ask me how I know!)
V-sheaves... are those the 2 idler pulleys beneath the front grille on the tractor? Or are they on the deck mounts? (sorry, I'm still new to this). I had the belt come off of one of the pulleys on my 106 when I first tried mowing with that, didn't have enough tension on the belt. At least that isn't new
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Yup, below the grill in front. Note the orientation of the axle spacers, and the two sheaves. I use 'sheave' where it is in an undriven or idle condition, but 'idler pulley' is synonymous. (I used to work at a ski area, and service the big sheaves that the cable ran in)
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thanks for the blade timing explanations. Get to learn every day.

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Yup, below the grill in front. Note the orientation of the axle spacers, and the two sheaves. I use 'sheave' where it is in an undriven or idle condition, but 'idler pulley' is synonymous. (I used to work at a ski area, and service the big sheaves that the cable ran in)
Sounds like quite the job! Guess I knew what it was all along, just a new term for something familiar
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That's a nice old O!

I'll point out that my ratty O, with the belt that's been on it for decades, pulled my dead 123 uphill yesterday .

They WILL pull.


Congrats on the find!
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That's a nice old O!

I'll point out that my ratty O, with the belt that's been on it for decades, pulled my dead 123 uphill yesterday .

They WILL pull.


Congrats on the find!
That's quite the load! Guess I can do even more with it than I originally thought! Might wanna fix up the throttle first though
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Good work on the deck I may have to refer back when I find the time to get the deck working on my old O.
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That's quite the load! Guess I can do even more with it than I originally thought! Might wanna fix up the throttle first though

Oddly enough , it was the pair in my avatar photo too . :-)


123 is running now, though I recall after using it, that it has no brakes
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