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Old 03-24-2023, 12:34 PM
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Default Should 129 transmission filter be filled with fluid before installing?

A local mechanic / shop owner told me the other year to fill up the new filter with transmission fluid and then let it sit for about 10 minutes before installing it. Is this necessary or will it fill once the motor is running? If not filling it first, I'd think it'd be necessary to add more to the trans.

Also..how often do you guys change them? Manual says every 100 hours which seems like alot. I've been changing it about every year since having replaced the trans fluid about 4 years ago.

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Old 03-24-2023, 03:46 PM
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If you want to make a PITA job even messier, go ahead, give it a shot!!
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Old 03-24-2023, 03:57 PM
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If you want to make a PITA job even messier, go ahead, give it a shot!!
Referring to...what exactly? Installing the filter while it's full of trans fluid? Not a real big deal. Actually not all that much spills out. Hardest thing is sometimes loosening the old filter.

I only average about 25-30 hours a year on the Cub, so probably would not need to do this every year or even every other. It's only used for mowing (fairly thick and heavily weeded areas though - not your average lawn). I don't use it anymore for snow plowing or any sort of gardening work.
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Old 03-24-2023, 04:08 PM
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The filter mounts horizontally and if you filled it with oil, half of it would spill out. Next the filter is mounted in the Return Side of the system, thus it would be sucked full of oil rather shortly.

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Old 03-24-2023, 04:20 PM
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if you filled it with oil
meaning....hytran fluid, right? Not engine oil... Based on what you're saying, sounds like no need to fill it before installing. I actually don't think I ever did until a few years ago when the guy I've always bought my 129 supplies from suggested it.

I just don't recall that much spilling out but my memory's pretty crappy so, yeah, could well be. In any event, how often would you replace it based on the usage I referred to?
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sounds like no need to fill it before installing.
I never have.
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Engine oil in a Hydro??!!!
Why would one even think of that!
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Engine oil in a Hydro??!!!
Why would one even think of that!
Contrary to what I would have expected, I've read that it's fairly common practice in the construction and mining industries to use SAE-10, 20 or even 30 with the lowest API rating as a substitute for hydraulic oil ISO 32, 46, or 68 - at least for the hydraulic systems of heavy equipment. No idea what would happen it if were mixed in with what's already in the cub transmission, being that hydro fluid is of higher viscosity.
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Don't make a simple job harder than it needs to be. Do not prefill the filter, pull one of the relief valves from the top and fill the unit from there. It will fill much quicker without burping. Only use 7 qts of HYTRAN or Mastertran fluid, and enjoy.
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Don't make a simple job harder than it needs to be. Do not prefill the filter, pull one of the relief valves from the top and fill the unit from there. It will fill much quicker without burping. Only use 7 qts of HYTRAN or Mastertran fluid, and enjoy.
There may have been a tad of misunderstanding all along in this thread. I'm not refilling the trans. That's already full ever since I did some work on it a few years ago to replace the cork gasket. So now I'm merely changing the filter as part of normal yearly lubrication, etc.

So I was basically asking: 1) should the filter have some fluid in it before installing (answer indicates apparently not despite what the local parts supplier/technician told me) and, 2) should the filter be changed more often than the suggested 100 hour interval. That's it.

Sorry for any confusion!
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