Saving a 1982 Yellow & White CCC 782

[Farmall450]

1711Cub;518482]Kohler 25 158 11-S Throttle Linkage Bushing

Kohler 235778-S Choke cable clamp


Thanks for the P/N -- found the clamp already, but was about to lookup the bushing. Ordered 2 for next time

Probably have one on a parts motor somewhere, but most of the extras I have are for the single cylinders.

[Farmall450]

Checked my inventory and I do have the hoses and filter base from a 1811 I snagged off feebay sometime last year. I'm not sure if there are any more adapters needed, or if the (45 deg flare?) fittings screw right onto the block/fittings once that block off plate is removed.

[aagitch]

Originally Posted by 1711Cub

The KT17 Series I were installed in Chassis Serial Numbers below 726124.

The KT17 Series II were installed in Chassis Serial Numbers above 726125.

Obviously, almost all the Series I have been replaced due to failures. They are a rare sight today.

The Series I is not rare. There are 82 series cub cadets all over the internet for sale, and not for sale, that still have the Series I in them.

[Farmall450]

Originally Posted by aagitch

The Series I is not rare. There are 82 series cub cadets all over the internet for sale, and not for sale, that still have the Series I in them.

From my understanding, if you had a flat yard and stayed on top of oil changes they lasted fine. If you mow hillsides and ditches like me, they didn't last at all. I've only seen a few Series I for sale, and probably half were blown.

[1711Cub]

They are all gone around here. Good riddance..

[aagitch]

Originally Posted by Farmall450

From my understanding, if you had a flat yard and stayed on top of oil changes they lasted fine. If you mow hillsides and ditches like me, they didn't last at all. I've only seen a few Series I for sale, and probably half were blown.

Yeah they sure had to be careful with the hills. I'm sure there were alot of ticked off owners when the series I first came out.

[Farmall450]

Originally Posted by aagitch

Yeah they sure had to be careful with the hills. I'm sure there were alot of ticked off owners when the series I first came out.

That sure would suck to throw a rod on a new tractor. I guess if it was under warranty you wouldn't mind so much, minus the fact you'd probably get another KT17. Any former dealers/mechs on here have a record for most engines?

[ol'George]

They were a very poor design, and almost sent Kohler into bankruptcy.
John Deere was so pissed they said they would NEVER speck another Kohler engine in their products.
But if an operator didn't rev them cold, but allowed them to warm up as should be any engine, and kept the oil changed regularly they held up OK mostly, and as far as running on an angle not as much of a problem as now remembered.
The connecting rod oil splash design didn't work as good on those twins, as it did on all single cyl engines of various manufactures.
I would venture to guess most operators ran them hard and didn't do oil changes or even check the oil.
Add that to a poor design as I said before, and it was a recipe for disaster.
They sure as hell were not bullet proof like the old "K" series singles.

The later KT series II corrected those faults with pressure oiling to the connecting rods by cross drilling the crankshafts. and installing a pressure regulator ball/spring to achieve #40 at hot idle and over #80 cold.
Also some were specified with oil filters mounted on the block or remotely.
The last and best are the magnums with mag ignition more and thicker webbing in the crankcase, *30 valve face angle and thicker crankshaft diameter at the base of the flywheel taper, as some skid steer loaders were
experiencing problems there due to the abuse a skid steer gets.
Blaw blaw blaw,-- old men ramble

[1711Cub]

While the KT 17 Series II is a vast improvement over the I, I have had a few chuck rods. The Magnums seem to be more robust in every category.

[Farmall450]

Originally Posted by ol'George

They were a very poor design, and almost sent Kohler into bankruptcy.
John Deere was so pissed they said they would NEVER speck another Kohler engine in their products.
But if an operator didn't rev them cold, but allowed them to warm up as should be any engine, and kept the oil changed regularly they held up OK mostly, and as far as running on an angle not as much of a problem as now remembered.
The connecting rod oil splash design didn't work as good on those twins, as it did on all single cyl engines of various manufactures.
I would venture to guess most operators ran them hard and didn't do oil changes or even check the oil.
Add that to a poor design as I said before, and it was a recipe for disaster.
They sure as hell were not bullet proof like the old "K" series singles.

The later KT series II corrected those faults with pressure oiling to the connecting rods by cross drilling the crankshafts. and installing a pressure regulator ball/spring to achieve #40 at hot idle and over #80 cold.
Also some were specified with oil filters mounted on the block or remotely.
The last and best are the magnums with mag ignition more and thicker webbing in the crankcase, *30 valve face angle and thicker crankshaft diameter at the base of the flywheel taper, as some skid steer loaders were
experiencing problems there due to the abuse a skid steer gets.
Blaw blaw blaw,-- old men ramble

Originally Posted by 1711Cub

While the KT 17 Series II is a vast improvement over the I, I have had a few chuck rods. The Magnums seem to be more robust in every category.

Agreed. Can't beat a magnum, although the commands seem a little easier on fuel. Just stay away from the smaller commands/command HO.