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Old 07-31-2013, 08:12 AM
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What issue? There is none. They don't have a spring. It's just solid linkage.
I don't mean to sound to dumb about this post , but how about getting some more info and maybe even some pics to understand what JD does to their hydro linkage ?????

I have no idea how JD hydro linkage is set up , but all i can envision is the exact setup that Cub has minus the springs and solid linkage somewhere ?? Solid linkage in place of the springs ???

My hydro works fine after replacing/shimming the linkage , but if there is a cheaper/easier fix , i am all ears.


I am curious about what the fuel line is supposed to be doing. Is it taking up space in the plate to make the hydro react faster , or just cushioning the big plate when it moves ??? Or both ??

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Old 07-31-2013, 08:23 AM
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I am curious about what the fuel line is supposed to be doing. Is it taking up space in the plate to make the hydro react faster , or just cushioning the big plate when it moves ??? Or both ??

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Both. It also stops it from floating back/forth which causes speed variations.
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Old 07-31-2013, 09:00 AM
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What issue? There is none. They don't have a spring. It's just solid linkage.
Guess I worded that wrong, I was thinking along the lines of what Darrell said. Can we get some pics to see what JD does that CC didn't? I did a quick google search but I only have a few minutes before I leave for work and I didn't come up with anything.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:29 AM
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I have an interest in this post also. My 2084 has always needed my hand to be on or near the speed control lever as it speeds up or slows down as I mow. The mechanism does not appear to be worn. Our 2072 does not do that but is very responsive to speed lever input. Maybe like me my 2084 spring is tired.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:40 AM
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I have an interest in this post also. My 2084 has always needed my hand to be on or near the speed control lever as it speeds up or slows down as I mow. The mechanism does not appear to be worn. Our 2072 does not do that but is very responsive to speed lever input. Maybe like me my 2084 spring is tired.
Paul something i noticed on my 1782 was that in the plate that the linkage attaches to. Has two hole so i swapped them... one was closer to the pivot point which made the plates move more quickly. Driving wise it made it go faster as the throw was further and was a little more touchy. I say this if you can live with a little less speed it might make it gentler as my springs and all were in great shape.
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:54 AM
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Guess I worded that wrong, I was thinking along the lines of what Darrell said. Can we get some pics to see what JD does that CC didn't? I did a quick google search but I only have a few minutes before I leave for work and I didn't come up with anything.
Here is a Sunstrand off some models of JD.
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thanks for sharing this potential "fix" to a sloppy hydro. My 1450 maintains speed up and down hill much better than my 1650. But I can't really see any difference in the trunnion situation between the two-unless it's just weak springs on the the 1650. I think I'll try this on the 1650 and see what it does. I was thinking about shimming the springs to tighten them up, or just replacing them.
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thanks for sharing this potential "fix" to a sloppy hydro.
I think it's a stretch to call it a "fix" but for no more effort than it takes, may be worth your time.
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I have a Ransomes (Jacobson owns them now) "golf course" mower, 72" deck, 3cyl diesel. The hydro is foot operated, but uses the same Sunstrand unit. This is the lever that is connected to the swashplate directly. I have the hydro tore down for repair, it actually sheared the roll pin INSIDE the unit on the swashplate shaft. This may also be a reason IH used the springs. But, this unit has 2187hrs on it, so I think the longevity is there.....

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Now, operating the hydro with your foot is a little different. But, this unit will creep just like our cubs, and worked all around very well without any cushion on the swashplate. It could be a little jerky, but that may have been due to the internal problems it had. If I ever get time to put the stupid thing back together, I'll let you know if the "jerk" is gone with the new pins.
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everyone with a hydro should buy NEW springs at the very least they are like $12 for the pair from a multitude of suppliers. your hydro can be responsive if renewed correctly. those parts have a lot of hours on them.
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