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Old 11-13-2018, 07:04 AM
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My youngest son, bought his first house in the fall of 2017. He has been busy fixing, redecorating, and remodeling things to his liking.

One of those little annoying things was, there is this room in the basement, that the ceiling fixture "flickered" when the switch turned it on. He said, that he put a new LED bulb in it and the problem remained. So, about 4 weeks ago, I replaced the ceramic light fixture and it seemed OK at that time. Problem persisted. So, Dad went down to that room again, loaded for bear.

Sidebar---- His basement, unlike the majority of the homes here in Michigan, is wired with EMT thinwall metal tubing.

So, I discovered that a slight tapping on the EMT made the light go on/off or flicker. So, I am thinking, new bulb, new fixture, it must be the switch. Opened up the switch box and jumpered the light switch out. Hmmmm, no difference. Traced down the power source from a Junction Box. Went to the Junction Box and direct wired the power source to the Fixture Circuit. No difference. By now, my son is thinking there has to be something with the THHN in the EMT from the Junction Box to the Light Fixture Box. I am skeptical. So, we rip out the THHN and run new Romex. No difference. So, new bulb, new fixture, new wire and problem persists. So, I grabbed my Trouble Light and removed the bulb out of that (knew that bulb was good because we are using it) and told my son to swap out bulbs............WhaLa.........Light works.....No flickering.

Now after spending two plus hours chasing something that we thought was the issue, turns out we had "tunnel vision" and overlooked that fact that the new LED bulb would be bad.

Reminds of working on our Cub Cadets, often we over think the problem and overlook the simple things, to check first.

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Not the first time and will not be the last time something like this happens.. I think anyone who has ever owned a home, car, truck, etc and worked on it themselves has gone through this at one point or another. No matter what though once ya figure things like that out there is a definite feeling of victory and you deserve a cold one!
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The older we get, the more stories we can tell around the camp fire.
Now put the bulb back in, tis the season for twinkling lights and good cheer.
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Like the time I cleaned and rebuilt my carb twice. Would idle all day long but couldn't rev it up... drove me nuts for like a week


Condenser was bad....
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Dishwasher quit. Just plain stopped. Restarted on its on. Wife said it acted weird about a month earlier. Well, it was 15 years old and loud, so we went and bought a new one. I put it in one Sunday evening. Power to the dishwasher is sent through a switch on the wall. Flipped on the switch, nothing happened. Checked all my wiring, nothing. Stared at the switch and thought NO WAY. Of course every homeowner has a new light switch squirreled away. Changed the switch and, you guessed it, it all worked. So I consoled myself by saying how much quieter the new dishwasher was.
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Dishwasher quit. Just plain stopped. Restarted on its on. Wife said it acted weird about a month earlier. Well, it was 15 years old and loud, so we went and bought a new one. I put it in one Sunday evening. Power to the dishwasher is sent through a switch on the wall. Flipped on the switch, nothing happened. Checked all my wiring, nothing. Stared at the switch and thought NO WAY. Of course every homeowner has a new light switch squirreled away. Changed the switch and, you guessed it, it all worked. So I consoled myself by saying how much quieter the new dishwasher was.
HAHAHA.. ANd let me guess. When you looked in the old one you found a spoon jammed under the washy thingy that spins around
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I thought for sure you were going to say they were using the emt as the ground or neutral, etc.
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I thought for sure you were going to say they were using the emt as the ground or neutral, etc.
They did....."ground". Only two conductor THHN inside.
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I know what you mean about those LED bulbs, Roland. I installed dimmable ones in my recessed lighting in one of my bedrooms and the damn things stay lit (very, very dim) even with the switch completely shut off.

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